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Thanks for responding, this is definitely easier from a computer. I reviewed summaries from NAEP for reading and math [0] and found that across the board, publ

• _-david-_ 4y ago
  >I reviewed summaries from NAEP for reading and math [0] and found that across the board, public schools appear to outperform "public charter" schools. I understand that the received wisdom is that public schools are failing student. Certainly there are many public schools that don't increase, or actively harm, outcomes for some or all of their students. But the premise here is that the public system is fundamentally broken, and it should be substantiated. I wasn't trying to say every public school is bad and failing every student. Some schools are great, others are not. Some students can do great in bad schools and some students do bad in great schools. I think if there is a bad school parents shouldn't be forced to keep their kids in that school. This isn't ideal, obviously every school should be great. >The Hunt-Lee Commission recently released a final report for improving North Carolina Public Education Pre-K through University with 16 proposals[1], broadly categorized as "Build on what we have", "Invite and test new ideas", and "Implement proven solutions". Proposals such as these were what I had in mind when I originally wrote of incremental improvement. I only skimmed the summary not the entire report, but those seem like good improvements. The problem I have is we don't really know the full long term costs and benefits to them. I don't think these need to be exclusive though. There is no reason you can't allow your changes and allow charter schools. If the changes to the public schools improve things parents will send their kids back to the public schools when / if things improve. Keeping kids in poor public schools because we may in the future have some fixes to the public school system isn't great and is just going to continue giving poor kids a poor education. >Yes. The crappy school you mention should definitely be improved. But that's not what this bill does; this bill puts the burden on families to take their kids out of the crappy school and find a better one for them, leaving the crappy school in place along with the students of families who, for whatever reason, aren't able to move their own kids. The problem is many crappy public schools aren't improving. Allowing parents to put their kids in a different school may be beneficial in the mean time. Parents who can't or won't do research can keep their kids in the crappy school. There would be less kids in the crappy schools which would be an improvement regardless.