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Potatoes are more filling per calorie than broccoli? Spinach? Also I wonder the comparison between potatoes and protein champions like hard-boiled eggs or fish

Potatoes are more filling per calorie than broccoli? Spinach? Also I wonder the comparison between potatoes and protein champions like hard-boiled eggs or fish. Maybe we could have a nice American eating competition to compare. Or just a detailed study where people eat short-term diets of each and measure their satiety and other vitals.

rootusrootus 4y ago
> Potatoes are more filling per calorie than broccoli? Spinach? Way, way, way more filling. Regular vegetables have basically no fill value at all. Just a fancy form of water & vitamins. Potatoes are quite good at filling.
- tempestn 4y ago
  Filling here meaning over the medium term. You can stuff your stomach with vegetables and briefly feel "full", but you won't feel "satisfied" for very long, and might even feel a bit of nausea as your digestive system works on all these vegetables without much in the way of calories.
  - rootusrootus 4y ago
    Exactly. I can eat enough vegetables to feel ill, and still not actually feel satiated. It's an uncomfortable feeling, still being hungry but also feeling full and a little nauseous even.
- guerrilla 4y ago
  I'm pretty sure this is quite wrong [1]. While potatoes score as the most satiating "carb" it seem far from the most satiating food, vegetables have tons of fiber score a lot higher in satiety vs. nutrient density.[2] > Just a fancy form of water & vitamins No. 1. https://optimisingnutrition.com/calculating-satiety/ https://optimisingnutrition.com/calculating-satiety/ 2. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/p_QyR5ImpQSJ_QODYl-tKxeKfjbeOqSuyEC0_ChJdhjpTXWEVicUE69bxS_M1JLiMgzq_v7jlpTVhTO0dZLFuKfpRvxm31vJfIzyHs8R6b5rwb9df-wrYvplIHqAYi3A2r5cpR8u https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/p_QyR5ImpQSJ_QODYl-tKxeKfj...
  - safety1st 4y ago
    #1 is a really great link. I hope people click it and read it. It specifically mentions the potato phenomenon: > It’s worth noting here that the star performer in the satiety study was the plain boiled potato. People found it filling and hard to eat much at the buffet three hours later. This could be due to the low palatability of plain potatoes or the effects of resistant starch which forms when we cook and cool potatoes before eating. > You may have heard of the Potato Hack Diet where people eat nothing but potatoes and lose weight. Unfortunately, while satiating, plain potato is not the most nutrient-dense and may not provide enough protein to maintain high levels of lean muscle mass during weight loss. You would also need to eat it without added fat (e.g. butter, oil, etc.). Otherwise, it’s extremely easy to overeat (e.g. chips). That's why I speculated that a diet of potatoes, a lean protein source or two, and no added fats could make for a diet that's nutritious and promotes weight loss. I'll probably break all of these rules and have fish and chips tonight!
  - rootusrootus 4y ago
    I can't actually get satiated with vegetables. I can eat enough to feel ill, but I'll still be hungry, paradoxically.
    - guerrilla 4y ago
      Maybe you need something else specific due to your lifestyle.... more protein or carbs.

rootusrootus 4y ago

> Potatoes are more filling per calorie than broccoli? Spinach? Way, way, way more filling. Regular vegetables have basically no fill value at all. Just a fancy form of water & vitamins. Potatoes are quite good at filling.

tempestn 4y ago
Filling here meaning over the medium term. You can stuff your stomach with vegetables and briefly feel "full", but you won't feel "satisfied" for very long, and might even feel a bit of nausea as your digestive system works on all these vegetables without much in the way of calories.
- rootusrootus 4y ago
  Exactly. I can eat enough vegetables to feel ill, and still not actually feel satiated. It's an uncomfortable feeling, still being hungry but also feeling full and a little nauseous even.
guerrilla 4y ago
I'm pretty sure this is quite wrong [1]. While potatoes score as the most satiating "carb" it seem far from the most satiating food, vegetables have tons of fiber score a lot higher in satiety vs. nutrient density.[2] > Just a fancy form of water & vitamins No. 1. https://optimisingnutrition.com/calculating-satiety/ https://optimisingnutrition.com/calculating-satiety/ 2. https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/p_QyR5ImpQSJ_QODYl-tKxeKfjbeOqSuyEC0_ChJdhjpTXWEVicUE69bxS_M1JLiMgzq_v7jlpTVhTO0dZLFuKfpRvxm31vJfIzyHs8R6b5rwb9df-wrYvplIHqAYi3A2r5cpR8u https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/p_QyR5ImpQSJ_QODYl-tKxeKfj...
- safety1st 4y ago
  #1 is a really great link. I hope people click it and read it. It specifically mentions the potato phenomenon: > It’s worth noting here that the star performer in the satiety study was the plain boiled potato. People found it filling and hard to eat much at the buffet three hours later. This could be due to the low palatability of plain potatoes or the effects of resistant starch which forms when we cook and cool potatoes before eating. > You may have heard of the Potato Hack Diet where people eat nothing but potatoes and lose weight. Unfortunately, while satiating, plain potato is not the most nutrient-dense and may not provide enough protein to maintain high levels of lean muscle mass during weight loss. You would also need to eat it without added fat (e.g. butter, oil, etc.). Otherwise, it’s extremely easy to overeat (e.g. chips). That's why I speculated that a diet of potatoes, a lean protein source or two, and no added fats could make for a diet that's nutritious and promotes weight loss. I'll probably break all of these rules and have fish and chips tonight!
- rootusrootus 4y ago
  I can't actually get satiated with vegetables. I can eat enough to feel ill, but I'll still be hungry, paradoxically.
  - guerrilla 4y ago
    Maybe you need something else specific due to your lifestyle.... more protein or carbs.