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YouTube ends Lofi Girl’s two-year-long music stream over bogus DMCA warning

102 points by angst 4y ago

chrisbolt 4y ago
Previous: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32049137 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32049137 YouTube has apologized: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32059721 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32059721
- ncmncm 4y ago
  They demonetized SpaceX Pink, too, a daily news feed of spaceflight news. Over and over again. She finally had to take all her vids down, or they would have pocketed it all, indefinitely. YouTube is a hellscape.
bilekas 4y ago
Yeah the title is a bit misleading. The complaint has been removed as abusive. And the stream will be back within 48 hours. > According to YouTube’s tweet, it can take up to 48 hours for wrongly removed videos to be reinstated.
- tehbeard 4y ago
  Is it? YouTube's flawed takedown system claimed another victim, and public outcry / the fact it hit something "big" was what got it "fixed". Has the underlying cause been addressed? Nope, just cleaning up the more public messes..
- shapefrog 4y ago
  Did the stream broadcast for "two years" uninterrupted? Was the stream ended "over bogus DMCA warning"?
  - nhinck2 4y ago
    Both of those things are true but the title is still misleading because youtube wasn't the actor that lead to the stream being ended. A title like "Walmart ends Christmas shopping over bogus bomb threat" just wouldn't exist.
    - twirlock 4y ago
  - bilekas 4y ago
    It's not ended though, yes it was a bogus claim, YT realised this and it will be re-enabled within 48 hours. The titles makes it seem them streamer is gone/ended permenantly. YouTubes DMCA policy is well documented with abuse and general nonsense sometimes, but credit is due here when they do the right thing and figure it out. Problem is that not everyone is as large as Lo-Fi to send out a reachable tweet.
    - shapefrog 4y ago
      > It's not ended though Is the broadcast Streamed live on Feb 22, 2020 still running or not? It is not. When re-enabled a new broadcast will begin. > The titles makes it seem them streamer is gone/ended permenantly. No it makes it seem that the continuous running broadcast was ended. It doesnt suggest the account was banned permanently - "YouTube Bans Lofi Girl" would be misleading if not a straight up lie. > YouTubes DMCA policy is well documented with abuse and general nonsense sometimes This comment is misleading. sometimes??? > but credit is due here when they do the right thing and figure it out Designing a system whereby the known copyright owner can be claimed against and the claim acted upon with zero review or thought seems like they are not doing the right thing at all. making an exception for a high profile channel is not an example of "figuring it out", its slapping a bandaid on a shotgun wound.
      - bilekas 4y ago
        > No it makes it seem that the continuous running broadcast was ended. It doesnt suggest the account was banned permanently - "YouTube Bans Lofi Girl" would be misleading if not a straight up lie. Okay, your point is taken, I just read it initially as a ban, my mistake. > Designing a system whereby the known copyright owner can be claimed against and the claim acted upon with zero review Playing devils advocate here again but there is an unhuman amount of video content being uploaded daily and I have no insight into the quantity of claims made, but its safe to assume it's high given there is an automated processes for making claims, it seems reasonable to me that there is an automated process for 'reviewing' also.. It's not ideal but I'm sure they're struggling to find a solution too and not just being `nasty`.

102 points by angst 4y ago

Previous: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32049137 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32049137 YouTube has apologized: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32059721 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32059721

ncmncm 4y ago
They demonetized SpaceX Pink, too, a daily news feed of spaceflight news. Over and over again. She finally had to take all her vids down, or they would have pocketed it all, indefinitely. YouTube is a hellscape.

bilekas 4y ago

Yeah the title is a bit misleading. The complaint has been removed as abusive. And the stream will be back within 48 hours. > According to YouTube’s tweet, it can take up to 48 hours for wrongly removed videos to be reinstated.

tehbeard 4y ago
Is it? YouTube's flawed takedown system claimed another victim, and public outcry / the fact it hit something "big" was what got it "fixed". Has the underlying cause been addressed? Nope, just cleaning up the more public messes..
shapefrog 4y ago
Did the stream broadcast for "two years" uninterrupted? Was the stream ended "over bogus DMCA warning"?
- nhinck2 4y ago
  Both of those things are true but the title is still misleading because youtube wasn't the actor that lead to the stream being ended. A title like "Walmart ends Christmas shopping over bogus bomb threat" just wouldn't exist.
  - twirlock 4y ago
- bilekas 4y ago
  It's not ended though, yes it was a bogus claim, YT realised this and it will be re-enabled within 48 hours. The titles makes it seem them streamer is gone/ended permenantly. YouTubes DMCA policy is well documented with abuse and general nonsense sometimes, but credit is due here when they do the right thing and figure it out. Problem is that not everyone is as large as Lo-Fi to send out a reachable tweet.
  - shapefrog 4y ago
    > It's not ended though Is the broadcast Streamed live on Feb 22, 2020 still running or not? It is not. When re-enabled a new broadcast will begin. > The titles makes it seem them streamer is gone/ended permenantly. No it makes it seem that the continuous running broadcast was ended. It doesnt suggest the account was banned permanently - "YouTube Bans Lofi Girl" would be misleading if not a straight up lie. > YouTubes DMCA policy is well documented with abuse and general nonsense sometimes This comment is misleading. sometimes??? > but credit is due here when they do the right thing and figure it out Designing a system whereby the known copyright owner can be claimed against and the claim acted upon with zero review or thought seems like they are not doing the right thing at all. making an exception for a high profile channel is not an example of "figuring it out", its slapping a bandaid on a shotgun wound.
    - bilekas 4y ago
      > No it makes it seem that the continuous running broadcast was ended. It doesnt suggest the account was banned permanently - "YouTube Bans Lofi Girl" would be misleading if not a straight up lie. Okay, your point is taken, I just read it initially as a ban, my mistake. > Designing a system whereby the known copyright owner can be claimed against and the claim acted upon with zero review Playing devils advocate here again but there is an unhuman amount of video content being uploaded daily and I have no insight into the quantity of claims made, but its safe to assume it's high given there is an automated processes for making claims, it seems reasonable to me that there is an automated process for 'reviewing' also.. It's not ideal but I'm sure they're struggling to find a solution too and not just being `nasty`.