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> you have no choice than to pay for the public system You can very much opt out from the "public system" in Germany. I'm privately insured.
by 19h 4y ago
> you have no choice than to pay for the public system
You can very much opt out from the "public system" in Germany. I'm privately insured.
- rvnx 4y agoInteresting, thank you for sharing. I didn't know. (I assumed it was like France, where it's also mandatory at 7.30%+1.30% (in some regions))
- int_19h 4y agoGerman healthcare system is really interesting, and I wonder if it should be a model for US more so than Canada. Not even because there are some inherent advantages, but because it would be an easier sell politically. Even the "public" part isn't really state-run, but rather a bunch of heavily regulated but still independent non-profits - some territorial, some industrial, some specific to (particularly large) employees.
- OtomotO 4y agoYou can't in Austria - you can additionally get a private insurance, but it's by no means mandatory. Although I pay most of my urgent stuff in cash, and get it back later (not everything), because otherwise I have to wait 3 months + for a simple scan :/
- Akronymus 4y agoAs much as I love it here, such mandatory things is something I HATE. Like Public health insurance being mandated, or the GIS.
- OtomotO 4y agoI love it, as long as it worked good, it was awesome. People that were poorer didn't have inferior public health insurance. That is a system I want to live in. Since the locust capitalists took over (11th January 1987!) it is going downhill though. Of course I can afford one of best health care, for me, but I want a social system, not an asocial one.
- Akronymus 4y agoOh yeah, definitely. The security net is great. And I get that for it to work, it needs to be paid for. I think that the downwards movement is more based in the population aging though. And the reason I hate it, is literally because there is no opt out at all. Hell, I'd use the public option if there were an opt out because it works well enough for me.
- OtomotO 4y agoI would rather be able not to be part of a Kammer. Leading my own company I hate having to pay the Wirtschaftskammer a mandatory fee. I don't need those lobbyists!
- gadflyinyoureye 4y agoThe opt out is after a fairly high income. Most people will be in the public option (yes,yes, private insurance but required by law). Most people will average 300-500 euro per month plus the employer contribution. I am curious about the 300-500. If this is per house hold or per employed adult.