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>then why provoke the war now? If they wait 5-10 years the US might implode and not even be able to resist them in the Pacific. The US economy is pretty questio

>then why provoke the war now? If they wait 5-10 years the US might implode and not even be able to resist them in the Pacific. The US economy is pretty questionable. Xi is getting old. He may want to be around for the invasion. Also, if the next leader isn't as aggressive, the moment may be missed. China is imploding far ahead of schedule developmentally (probably mostly a one child policy thing), whereas the US population is doing the reverse. By 2030, the tail end cohort of the most aggressive era of population suppression will be nearing 40y.o.

galaxyLogic 4y ago
> The US economy is pretty questionable. Do you mean economy is better somewhere else? There are now more jobs in US than before the pandemic. Isn't that pretty good at least relatively speaking? https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/there-are-now-more-jobs-available-pandemic-so-why-aren-n1263669 https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/there-are-now-more-...
- roenxi 4y ago
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_of_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_of_the_United_St... https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MABMM301USM189S https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MABMM301USM189S The US is deeply in debt and printing money has become part of the Plan A response to every crisis. They can't afford to wage war in Asia against China. Afghanistan against goatherds had them gasping with the exertion, and this proxy war against Russia might easily prove too much if they get overexcited. It is just a matter of time until the US has to pull their head in for financial reasons. If China waits 10 years there is even a chance the US collapses on its own without help. They aren't going to recover from 130% debt:GDP without a political crisis of some sort.
  - QuarterReptile 4y ago
    If China waits 10 years, their population will already have gone down in absolute terms, and their population is aging significantly faster than the US'. This is worse than it seems when you factor in the very low retirement ages that China has saddled itself with.
    - QuarterReptile 4y ago
      From a new HN link this morning: https://twitter.com/fuxianyi/status/1545668143816839170 https://twitter.com/fuxianyi/status/1545668143816839170 Per the post above, China's population has been dropping since 4 years ago but the statistics have been doctored pretty aggressively to hide this fact. The linked tweet alleges a 120million person discrepancy between government reporting and the reality.
- QuarterReptile 4y ago
  Your quote is me quoting grandparent. Separately, your source is number of unfilled jobs, not number of jobs, which I wouldn't use to attempt proof of the economy's health.

galaxyLogic 4y ago

> The US economy is pretty questionable. Do you mean economy is better somewhere else? There are now more jobs in US than before the pandemic. Isn't that pretty good at least relatively speaking? https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/there-are-now-more-jobs-available-pandemic-so-why-aren-n1263669 https://www.nbcnews.com/business/economy/there-are-now-more-...

roenxi 4y ago
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_of_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_debt_of_the_United_St... https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MABMM301USM189S https://fred.stlouisfed.org/series/MABMM301USM189S The US is deeply in debt and printing money has become part of the Plan A response to every crisis. They can't afford to wage war in Asia against China. Afghanistan against goatherds had them gasping with the exertion, and this proxy war against Russia might easily prove too much if they get overexcited. It is just a matter of time until the US has to pull their head in for financial reasons. If China waits 10 years there is even a chance the US collapses on its own without help. They aren't going to recover from 130% debt:GDP without a political crisis of some sort.
- QuarterReptile 4y ago
  If China waits 10 years, their population will already have gone down in absolute terms, and their population is aging significantly faster than the US'. This is worse than it seems when you factor in the very low retirement ages that China has saddled itself with.
  - QuarterReptile 4y ago
    From a new HN link this morning: https://twitter.com/fuxianyi/status/1545668143816839170 https://twitter.com/fuxianyi/status/1545668143816839170 Per the post above, China's population has been dropping since 4 years ago but the statistics have been doctored pretty aggressively to hide this fact. The linked tweet alleges a 120million person discrepancy between government reporting and the reality.
QuarterReptile 4y ago
Your quote is me quoting grandparent. Separately, your source is number of unfilled jobs, not number of jobs, which I wouldn't use to attempt proof of the economy's health.