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> Every conflict ends diplomatically (including WW2) WW2 ended with Berlin being captured by the allies and Japan being nuked. How was that a diplomatic end to
by origin_path 4y ago
> Every conflict ends diplomatically (including WW2)
WW2 ended with Berlin being captured by the allies and Japan being nuked. How was that a diplomatic end to the conflict?
- jmyeet 4y agoHow about the German Instrument of Surrender [1] and the Japanese acceptance of surrender terms [2]? [1]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Instrument_of_Surrender https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/German_Instrument_of_Surrender [2]: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrender_of_Japan#Occupation_and_the_surrender_ceremony https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Surrender_of_Japan#Occupation_...
- hef19898 4y agoWeren't those unconditional? Hell, callong any of the two world wars being ended by dimplomacy is quite a strong argument...
- jmyeet 4y agoYou're trying to draw a distinction that doesn't exist. The Allies said to Germany they wanted unconditional surrender. The Germans agreed. Various terms were agreed to including the cessation of military operations (on both sides). This is, by definition, a negotiated agreement ie diplomacy. Putting the highly questionable ethics of the two atomic bombings of Japan aside for a second, these bombings like any military operation are ultimately a negotiation tactic.
- origin_path 4y agoBy that definition every war ever ends via diplomacy. It makes the claim meaningless.