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IMHO Marvel became a victim of it's own (incredibly successful) formula. Avengers EndGame was truly an incredible movie to top off a decade of great story-telli

IMHO Marvel became a victim of it's own (incredibly successful) formula. Avengers EndGame was truly an incredible movie to top off a decade of great story-telling across multiple solo and team movies where both the heroes and the antagonists were steadily built up until the absolute crescendo that was EndGame. Of course the storyline was riddled with plotholes and was logically a bit messy and the movies ranged from great to not-so-great, but it delivered that incredible build-up-and-release that everyone was waiting for (I literally screamt, laughed, clapped and cried in that one movie alongside a packed theater) But since that high, since that chapter closed beautifully, the new "phase" of Marvel needs a lot of the same world building from zero, but now, everything feels much more formulaic. Add to it, directors getting more freedom to be stylistically seperate (eg. the new Thor is more comedy, the new Strange had elements of horror) means that the fanbase has no coherent thread to hold onto. Finally, just a reminder that most of us are now a decade older (and hopefully wiser ;)) and don't really want to follow movies + TV series which are now critical to even understand canon (eg. I had never watched any of the earlier MCU TV series, but never missed them, but I know if someone skipped Wandaverse, then the new Strange movie will be missing a lot of context)

kyriakos 4y ago
Endgame was the peak of over a decade of movies with a massive cast and high stakes. It's expected that anything that is released immediately after it will be anti climatic. At the moment the movies we've seen since don't seem to be heading into a common theme (the big bad like thanos) and therefore audiences find it hard to see the films as part of a bigger picture. Add to that the TV shows which appear to be focusing on less known characters and everything becomes more incoherent and less connected (for example shang chi was a decent fantasy movie but felt completely unconnected to the others). Personally I still watch all of them and I even enjoy Ms Marvel, which got very badly reviewed online to be decent, but you have to consider it as its own stand alone story and the fact that it's targeted to a younger audience.
davidguetta 4y ago
That's something I wont ever understand: Endgame was one of the biggest disapointment of my life. Everything was bad: plot (Time travel really ? "lets just go back and get the stones ?"), characters ("Bad Thanos" really ? He is stronger than ironman final version + captain america + thor WITHOUT THE FUCKING STONES), humour, 0 attention to details. I could go on for an hour This was hard to me ESPECIALLY in comparison to Infinity War which was one of the best action movie I've ever seen in all this aspects, and all the build up they did for endgame. Every time i see a comment like yours I'm like "wtf are people that blind"

kyriakos 4y ago

Endgame was the peak of over a decade of movies with a massive cast and high stakes. It's expected that anything that is released immediately after it will be anti climatic. At the moment the movies we've seen since don't seem to be heading into a common theme (the big bad like thanos) and therefore audiences find it hard to see the films as part of a bigger picture. Add to that the TV shows which appear to be focusing on less known characters and everything becomes more incoherent and less connected (for example shang chi was a decent fantasy movie but felt completely unconnected to the others). Personally I still watch all of them and I even enjoy Ms Marvel, which got very badly reviewed online to be decent, but you have to consider it as its own stand alone story and the fact that it's targeted to a younger audience.

davidguetta 4y ago

That's something I wont ever understand: Endgame was one of the biggest disapointment of my life. Everything was bad: plot (Time travel really ? "lets just go back and get the stones ?"), characters ("Bad Thanos" really ? He is stronger than ironman final version + captain america + thor WITHOUT THE FUCKING STONES), humour, 0 attention to details. I could go on for an hour This was hard to me ESPECIALLY in comparison to Infinity War which was one of the best action movie I've ever seen in all this aspects, and all the build up they did for endgame. Every time i see a comment like yours I'm like "wtf are people that blind"