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We are limited by 100W and evolution. An ant might have better understanding of the human psychology than we are of AGI's one.
by d0mine 4y ago
We are limited by 100W and evolution. An ant might have better understanding of the human psychology than we are of AGI's one.
- mikewarot 4y agoI think the one true path to a working AGI is to mimic biology and parenting. It wouldn't take any earth shattering breakthroughs, just lots of time and patience. Start with foveated vision, that can't focus well, and tune the AI to minimize surprise, as time goes on, the neural network would begin to figure out how to focus and control eye motion, then eventually head orientation, limbs, etc.. Eventually, you'd end up with an intelligence that inhabits a body, which you could then copy and put in more restrictive environments, but it might be torture?!?!
- d0mine 4y agoAirplanes do not flap their wings.
- mikewarot 4y agoAirplanes don't land in trees either. If you want something capable of driving down a street, you need something that can navigate and interact with the environment at human scale. An approach that would work, albeit slowly, is the one I outlined. The current model of trying to push something out NOW so we keep the stock price up, clearly hasn't worked, nor is it likely to.
- bioemerl 4y agoWe are not limited by either of those things. Sure, single individuals might be, but we aren't single individuals, we are a group. As a group, most of our advances actually come from individual going out and experimenting and having fun, finding weird things, not from our computation ability. We only need enough computation ability to realize something is weird and explore the world. So what's an AGI going to do? You're going to need a whole lot of units running around collecting data and running experiments, they're going to need to be general purpose, built out a common materials, run pretty efficiently, communicate information between each other, operate in pretty adverse conditions... Humans, you need humans. We aren't the end all be all, but we are pretty darn good at running around doing things and spreading our knowledge between each other, writing it down into books, improving and spreading that knowledge between yourselves. I think we really underestimate how far along the path we are to self-improvement, and we overestimate how quickly at AI could progress down that path. What I think is likely is that AI will be a tool, like any other, and our society will just grow and integrate these AI into itself. I think the real path forward is when we learn how to really start modifying and customizing life to our needs, and that's going to revolutionize humanity in ways that basically makes us unrecognizable to who we are today. And that will be good. In short, the future will be weird, but we're going to be fine.
- d0mine 4y agoMillions or even billions of ants are not comparable to a single human brain. In the same way, billions humans are nothing compared to a single AGI. AGI is scarier than nukes.
- mikewarot 4y agoThousands of people make up corporations... an artificial organism that seems to be about as scary, when you stop and ponder it.
- d0mine 4y agoCorporations are not people (whatever corrupt courts might say). The corporations are not AGIs too https://youtube.com/watch?v=L5pUA3LsEaw https://youtube.com/watch?v=L5pUA3LsEaw
- bioemerl 4y agoAnts aren't humans. They do not share, condense, or process information. If you look at the limiter of human advancement you find that single points of high computational power aren't limiting us. Instead, it is human ability to be empowered to explore problem spaces, have access to ample resources, and the diversity of our thought and exploration that drives our advancement. In all places we are limited, AGI isn't a solution that knocks the ball out of the park. The theory of a computer constrained to a box and exponentially growing its intelligence just doesn't seem realistic.