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The UK treated Hong Kongers as second class citizens. They censored newspapers and history books, only allowing those which agreed with imperialist Britain. Th

The UK treated Hong Kongers as second class citizens. They censored newspapers and history books, only allowing those which agreed with imperialist Britain. They then suppressed any autonomy in Hong Kong for decades, installing a ruthless puppet government.

LunaSea 4y ago
Whereas China opened up the country by letting Hong Kong citizens vote and thus auto-determine their future in a democratic way?
- garmanarnar 4y ago
  No, they're keeping the two systems in place. Opening up the country would destroy that.
  - LunaSea 4y ago
    > No, they're keeping the two systems in place. Opening up the country would destroy that. Oh really? The two systems where a CCP chill was placed at the top of the power and where protests were violently repressed? Talk about being "freed" of colonial rule.
    - garmanarnar 4y ago
      They have been freed, they are reunited with China. Hong Kong still has a democracy only now that system is answerable to Beijing. Not hard to grasp.
      - LunaSea 4y ago
        > They have been freed, they are reunited with China. Without the will of Hong Kong citizens. That's the reverse of freedom. > Hong Kong still has a democracy It's not. The CCP simply dictates what happens in Hong Kong. > Not hard to grasp. Hong Kong being under the dictatorial boot of China is indeed not very difficult to grasp.
        garmanarnar 4y ago
        Hong Kong is still a democracy. It is the will of Hong Kong citizens to be free from British imperialism.
        LunaSea 4y ago
        > Hong Kong is still a democracy. Without fair elections? I don't think so. > It is the will of Hong Kong citizens to be free from British imperialism. As decided where?
        garmanarnar 4y ago
        It's decided in Hong Kong. If you bothered to care about the opinion of Hong Kongers you might know that.
        LunaSea 4y ago
        > It's decided in Hong Kong. If you bothered to care about the opinion of Hong Kongers you might know that. Show me the referendum voting results then?
        garmanarnar 4y ago
        They didn't hold a referendum. Honestly if you're this ignorant on Hong Kong politics then I'm wasting my time.
        LunaSea 4y ago
        I know there wasn't a referendum but I asked the question to show you that citizens didn't have their say in the matter. So it isn't a democracy.

LunaSea 4y ago

Whereas China opened up the country by letting Hong Kong citizens vote and thus auto-determine their future in a democratic way?

garmanarnar 4y ago
No, they're keeping the two systems in place. Opening up the country would destroy that.
- LunaSea 4y ago
  > No, they're keeping the two systems in place. Opening up the country would destroy that. Oh really? The two systems where a CCP chill was placed at the top of the power and where protests were violently repressed? Talk about being "freed" of colonial rule.
  - garmanarnar 4y ago
    They have been freed, they are reunited with China. Hong Kong still has a democracy only now that system is answerable to Beijing. Not hard to grasp.
    - LunaSea 4y ago
      > They have been freed, they are reunited with China. Without the will of Hong Kong citizens. That's the reverse of freedom. > Hong Kong still has a democracy It's not. The CCP simply dictates what happens in Hong Kong. > Not hard to grasp. Hong Kong being under the dictatorial boot of China is indeed not very difficult to grasp.
      - garmanarnar 4y ago
        Hong Kong is still a democracy. It is the will of Hong Kong citizens to be free from British imperialism.
        LunaSea 4y ago
        > Hong Kong is still a democracy. Without fair elections? I don't think so. > It is the will of Hong Kong citizens to be free from British imperialism. As decided where?
        garmanarnar 4y ago
        It's decided in Hong Kong. If you bothered to care about the opinion of Hong Kongers you might know that.
        LunaSea 4y ago
        > It's decided in Hong Kong. If you bothered to care about the opinion of Hong Kongers you might know that. Show me the referendum voting results then?
        garmanarnar 4y ago
        They didn't hold a referendum. Honestly if you're this ignorant on Hong Kong politics then I'm wasting my time.
        LunaSea 4y ago
        I know there wasn't a referendum but I asked the question to show you that citizens didn't have their say in the matter. So it isn't a democracy.