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Any educational institution will inculcate its students with a way of thinking with regard to politics, and with regard to everything else, for that matter. App

Any educational institution will inculcate its students with a way of thinking with regard to politics, and with regard to everything else, for that matter. Apparently you happen to have been indoctrinated into the prevailing ideology of political Liberalism, which holds that Church and State should have no public interaction whatsoever. It's naive to think you can get through an educational institution without receiving something like this - the question is whether what you've learned is true. There's nothing unusual about a Catholic institution teaching that Catholicism is true - why else would it profess to be Catholic?

dragonwriter 4y ago
> Any educational institution will inculcate its students with a way of thinking with regard to politics Probably, but generally not one consistent way as the central goal of the degree program. > Apparently you happen to have been indoctrinated into the prevailing ideology of political Liberalism, which holds that Church and State should have no public interaction whatsoever. To the extent that may be true or false, it has no bearing on the descriptive statements about the upthread claim that the equivalent of what this college provides is available from local community colleges in the US, which is not a (positive or negative) normative claim about the desirability of the program offered. > There's nothing unusual about a Catholic institution teaching that Catholicism is true The central focus of this institution’s program is objectively unusual among Catholic higher education institutions in the US, though it may be less unusual for the civic orientation part of it to be an included focus in other institutions. But, in any case whether it is unusual for Catholic institutions is as immaterial as whether or not it is desirable, this subthread is about the claim that the same is available from public community colleges in the US, which is not only very much not the case, but would actually be prohibited by the interpretation of the First and Fourteenth Amendments that has been consistently applied since the 1940s.

dragonwriter 4y ago

> Any educational institution will inculcate its students with a way of thinking with regard to politics Probably, but generally not one consistent way as the central goal of the degree program. > Apparently you happen to have been indoctrinated into the prevailing ideology of political Liberalism, which holds that Church and State should have no public interaction whatsoever. To the extent that may be true or false, it has no bearing on the descriptive statements about the upthread claim that the equivalent of what this college provides is available from local community colleges in the US, which is not a (positive or negative) normative claim about the desirability of the program offered. > There's nothing unusual about a Catholic institution teaching that Catholicism is true The central focus of this institution’s program is objectively unusual among Catholic higher education institutions in the US, though it may be less unusual for the civic orientation part of it to be an included focus in other institutions. But, in any case whether it is unusual for Catholic institutions is as immaterial as whether or not it is desirable, this subthread is about the claim that the same is available from public community colleges in the US, which is not only very much not the case, but would actually be prohibited by the interpretation of the First and Fourteenth Amendments that has been consistently applied since the 1940s.