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> The alternative is letting Putin continue to believe that his vision of Russian irredentism — which could very easily go right though my home in Berlin Maybe
by nivenkos 4y ago
> The alternative is letting Putin continue to believe that his vision of Russian irredentism — which could very easily go right though my home in Berlin
Maybe if Germany had Russian-majority areas, had started banning the use of Russian, and had violent demonstration clashes resulting in neo-Nazis burning ethnic Russian supporters and seperatists alive - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Odessa_clashes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/2014_Odessa_clashes
I don't support Putin or the invasion at all, but it's not like he just invaded out of the blue. Ukraine also failed to allow Donetsk and Luhansk to hold independent referendums for secession - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_agreements#Elections_in_the_DPR_and_LPR https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Minsk_agreements#Elections_in_...
The situation is nowhere near as black and white as just "Putin madman". A peaceful compromise around referendums and the right to self-determination would have been the best outcome, but now we should be neutral and put the stability of our own countries first.
- ben_w 4y agoUnfortunately there is evidence that Putin was deliberately stirring up trouble. Even more unfortunately, at that level propaganda is beyond my ken to reliability disabuse, and I know full well that hawks want me to fear more than I need to. Yet it is the locals he's claiming to want to liberate who are shooting his troops, the cities he's saying he wants to save that are being flattened by his missiles. Reminds me of the stories of Afghanistan, where we blew up weddings and then were surprised the locals didn't like us.