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> So as the UK left the EU, they are now a small country in the computer world. Umm yeah no. Perhaps regulation wise but no, the uk is not a “small” country in

> So as the UK left the EU, they are now a small country in the computer world. Umm yeah no. Perhaps regulation wise but no, the uk is not a “small” country in the “computer world”.

9dev 4y ago
What else would it be? There's about 67 million people living in the UK, compared to the 447 million in the EU - depends on your definition of "small", but our company will likewise ignore any specific UK regulations. The handful of customers there isn't worth any additional overhead compared to the EU+US.
- nsteel 4y ago
  Perhaps we should be counting computers, rather than people, in the "computer world". Although I am not saying you'd come to a different conclusion.
- theptip 4y ago
  Of the countries in the world, the UK ranks sixth in GDP.
  - cge 4y ago
    The problem with that measurement is that top GDPs fall off quickly. While the UK is the sixth, it's only around 3-4% of the global GDP, and while I can't find values from the same year at the moment, likely has a lower GDP than California. The EU is around 18% of the global GDP; the US, China, and EU together make up around 65% of global GDP, and each of them has at least triple the GDP of any other individual country.
  - 9dev 4y ago
    Most of that money is bound in the financial industry, though. Unless you're in the sector, the GDP rank doesn't matter much for doing business with the UK.
    - weq 4y ago
      The UK exists right now as a shell company City of London who are the tax havean bankers of the world. The UK knows your financial secrets, and thats how they keep themselves relevant.
TheSpiceIsLife 4y ago
A quick search suggests the UK digital market was nearly $50 billion on 2021.[1] 1. https://www.statista.com/topics/7208/digital-economy-in-the-uk/#topicHeader__wrapper https://www.statista.com/topics/7208/digital-economy-in-the-...
tomjen3 4y ago
It has fewer people than Germany, and only low double digits compared to the EU. With this legalization I would IP ban the UK, then grow the service and look into opening up for the UK when my service was big and the lawyers didn't matter.
- yrgulation 4y ago
  Typing this using a british designed arm cpu powered phone using the protocol made by a british guy on a forum cofounded by a british american venture capitalist. But the UK is “small” in the “computer world”. Perhaps we should ban german IP instead so we can read less about german nationalist pride and instead focus more on what makes countries competitive and what not in modern tech.
  - donkarma 4y ago
    yeah that's all good for you but it doesn't change the fact that the UK is not that big of a market to cause all this trouble
  - swores 4y ago
    I think (as a Brit myself) you're being overly defensive and inferring insult where there was none. Suggesting that the market size of the UK might not be big enough to make up for the costs of complying with a law like this is not at all the same as saying that people from the UK are not capable of making using industry contributions.
    - yrgulation 4y ago
      You are right i am overly defensive. The term small used by op can also be read as a pejorative term meant to describe uk’s would be weakness post brexit - often used by a small but vocal number of eu citizens that like myself (a uk person as well) have been against brexit. And i’ve it read as such. The uk market may be small in size in comparison with the whole of the eu, but the uk is by no means a small player in the “computer world”, whatever that means. Indeed due to its size it may not hold much legal clout over the eu, and the eu being protectionist as it is it might even seek to punish british isps or web companies by the excuse of having different laws. Thats not in anyone’s interest and it reflects poorly on the eu and on those people here proposing a ban on uk ips because of some silly laws. I despise the mindset of those who only seek “sanctions” and “punishment” instead of actual solutions and are constantly spewing nationalist nonsense as if, say, germany isnt full of crap and a root cause of quite some major issues on the continent right now. So yeah I am pretty much bored by all this nonsense. How can we fix the issues that such legislation is causing? Before the righteous ban our ips - not that we’d lose much.

> So as the UK left the EU, they are now a small country in the computer world. Umm yeah no. Perhaps regulation wise but no, the uk is not a “small” country in the “computer world”.

9dev 4y ago

What else would it be? There's about 67 million people living in the UK, compared to the 447 million in the EU - depends on your definition of "small", but our company will likewise ignore any specific UK regulations. The handful of customers there isn't worth any additional overhead compared to the EU+US.

nsteel 4y ago
Perhaps we should be counting computers, rather than people, in the "computer world". Although I am not saying you'd come to a different conclusion.
theptip 4y ago
Of the countries in the world, the UK ranks sixth in GDP.
- cge 4y ago
  The problem with that measurement is that top GDPs fall off quickly. While the UK is the sixth, it's only around 3-4% of the global GDP, and while I can't find values from the same year at the moment, likely has a lower GDP than California. The EU is around 18% of the global GDP; the US, China, and EU together make up around 65% of global GDP, and each of them has at least triple the GDP of any other individual country.
- 9dev 4y ago
  Most of that money is bound in the financial industry, though. Unless you're in the sector, the GDP rank doesn't matter much for doing business with the UK.
  - weq 4y ago
    The UK exists right now as a shell company City of London who are the tax havean bankers of the world. The UK knows your financial secrets, and thats how they keep themselves relevant.

TheSpiceIsLife 4y ago

A quick search suggests the UK digital market was nearly $50 billion on 2021.[1] 1. https://www.statista.com/topics/7208/digital-economy-in-the-uk/#topicHeader__wrapper https://www.statista.com/topics/7208/digital-economy-in-the-...

tomjen3 4y ago

It has fewer people than Germany, and only low double digits compared to the EU. With this legalization I would IP ban the UK, then grow the service and look into opening up for the UK when my service was big and the lawyers didn't matter.

yrgulation 4y ago
Typing this using a british designed arm cpu powered phone using the protocol made by a british guy on a forum cofounded by a british american venture capitalist. But the UK is “small” in the “computer world”. Perhaps we should ban german IP instead so we can read less about german nationalist pride and instead focus more on what makes countries competitive and what not in modern tech.
- donkarma 4y ago
  yeah that's all good for you but it doesn't change the fact that the UK is not that big of a market to cause all this trouble
- swores 4y ago
  I think (as a Brit myself) you're being overly defensive and inferring insult where there was none. Suggesting that the market size of the UK might not be big enough to make up for the costs of complying with a law like this is not at all the same as saying that people from the UK are not capable of making using industry contributions.
  - yrgulation 4y ago
    You are right i am overly defensive. The term small used by op can also be read as a pejorative term meant to describe uk’s would be weakness post brexit - often used by a small but vocal number of eu citizens that like myself (a uk person as well) have been against brexit. And i’ve it read as such. The uk market may be small in size in comparison with the whole of the eu, but the uk is by no means a small player in the “computer world”, whatever that means. Indeed due to its size it may not hold much legal clout over the eu, and the eu being protectionist as it is it might even seek to punish british isps or web companies by the excuse of having different laws. Thats not in anyone’s interest and it reflects poorly on the eu and on those people here proposing a ban on uk ips because of some silly laws. I despise the mindset of those who only seek “sanctions” and “punishment” instead of actual solutions and are constantly spewing nationalist nonsense as if, say, germany isnt full of crap and a root cause of quite some major issues on the continent right now. So yeah I am pretty much bored by all this nonsense. How can we fix the issues that such legislation is causing? Before the righteous ban our ips - not that we’d lose much.