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Do we even know the battery pack replacement cost ? Has any customer paid for it yet or are we still in the honeymoon phase where the manufacturer covers the co

Do we even know the battery pack replacement cost ? Has any customer paid for it yet or are we still in the honeymoon phase where the manufacturer covers the cost to lure more customers?

pornel 4y ago
Of course the prices are available, for every car model. It's not US healthcare :D There's also long-term battery health data available now from Teslas and Leaf. Tesla batteries degrade 1%-2% per year on average. Here are UK battery prices (this is the priciest component of an EV, the upside is that motors and transmission may last car's lifetime): Audi e-tron - £6,194.40 (71.2) Audi e-tron GT - £8,125.80 (93.4) Audi e-tron Sportback - £6,177 (71) Audi Q4 e-tron - £4,524 (55) BMW i3 - £3,297.30 (37.9) BMW i4 - £7,020.90 (80.7) BMW iX3 - £6,423.21 (73.83) BMW iX - £6,177 (71) Citroën ë-Berlingo - £4,350 (50) Citroën ë-C4 - £4,350 (50) Citroën ë-Spacetourer - £4,350 (50) Cupra e-Born - £5,394 (62) DS 3 Crossback E-Tense - £4,350 (50) Fiat 500e - £2,088 (24) Ford Mustang Mach-E - £6,585.90 (75.7) Honda e - £3,088.50 (35.5) Hyundai Ioniq 5 - £5,063.40 (58.2) Hyundai Ioniq Electric - £3,332.10 (38.3) Hyundai Kona Electric - £3,410.40 (39.2) Jaguar I-Pace - £7,830 (90) Kia EV6 - £6,733.80 (77.4) Kia e-Niro - £5,568 (64) Kia Soul EV - £5,568 (64) Lexus UX300e - £4,724.10 (54.3) Mazda MX-30 - £3,088.50 (35.5) Mercedes-Benz EQA - £5,785.50 (66.5) Mercedes-Benz EQB - £5,785.50 (66.5) Mercedes-Benz EQC - £6,960 (80) Mercedes-Benz EQE - £7,830 (90) Mercedes-Benz EQS - £9,378.60 (107.8) Mercedes-Benz EQV - £8,700 (100 kWh) MG5 EV - £5,315.70 (61.1 kWh) MG ZS EV - £4,445.70 (51.1) MINI Electric - £2,836.20 (32.6) Nissan E-NV200 COMBI - £3,480 (40) Nissan Leaf - £3,393 (39) Peugeot e-208 - £4,350 (50) Peugeot e-2008 - £4,350 (50) Peugeot e-Rifter - £4,350 (50) Peugeot e-Traveller - £4,350 (50) Polestar 2 - £6,003 (69) Porsche Taycan - £6,890.40 (79.2) Renault Zoe - £4,524 (52) Škoda ENYAQ iV - £6,699 (77) Škoda ENYAQ Coupe - £6,699 (77) Smart fortwo EQ - £1,531.20 (17.6) Tesla Model 3 - £5,420.10 (62.3) Tesla Model S - £8,700 (100) Tesla Model X - £8,700 (100) Tesla Model Y - £6,525 (75) Vauxhall Combo-e Life - £4,350 (50) Vauxhall Corsa-e - £4,350 (50) Vauxhall Mokka-e - £4,350 (50) Vauxhall Vivaro-e Life - £4,350 (50) Volkswagen ID.3 - £5,046 (58) Volkswagen ID.4 - £4,524 (52) Volkswagen ID.5 - £6,699 (77) Volvo C40 Recharge - £6,787 (78) Volvo XC40 Recharge - £6,787 (78)
- BillinghamJ 4y ago
  This is the price to replace the entire battery pack for these cars? These seem _dramatically_ cheaper than I expected. In my mind, I was thinking more like 3-5x this, though that was incl VAT/tax
  - stripline 4y ago
    Post says "battery prices" so I assume that is for the material costs only. I expect labor costs to be a significant adder. It seems replacing an EV's battery would be similar in scope to replacing an ICE car's engine.
    - jeffbee 4y ago
      Not even close to the same amount of work. Replacing the battery pack in my PHEV, should it ever need replacing, which I doubt, involves removing 20 bolts and unplugging it. It drops right out the bottom of the car.
      - logifail 4y ago
        Ok, so stories like the guy who blew up his Model S because he was told a new battery would be $22,000 leave me not knowing what to think.[0] Our official car dealer would happily try and charge $50 to refill the windscreen washer fluid during a routine service :) so maybe the actual cost of the battery unit is only part of the story here. [0] https://electrek.co/2021/12/23/tesla-owner-blows-up-model-s-dynamite-battery-replacement/ https://electrek.co/2021/12/23/tesla-owner-blows-up-model-s-...
        jeffbee 4y ago
        $22k for a Model S battery doesn't sound very wrong to me, but it's going to be almost all materials and not a lot of labor. The battery I mentioned lists for $5500 from Honda, and it is only 17 kW-h. A Tesla has a 50-100 kW-h pack, so I would expect the cost to be proportionately larger, with a slight discount given Tesla's large battery purchasing power.

Do we even know the battery pack replacement cost ? Has any customer paid for it yet or are we still in the honeymoon phase where the manufacturer covers the cost to lure more customers?

pornel 4y ago

Of course the prices are available, for every car model. It's not US healthcare :D There's also long-term battery health data available now from Teslas and Leaf. Tesla batteries degrade 1%-2% per year on average. Here are UK battery prices (this is the priciest component of an EV, the upside is that motors and transmission may last car's lifetime): Audi e-tron - £6,194.40 (71.2) Audi e-tron GT - £8,125.80 (93.4) Audi e-tron Sportback - £6,177 (71) Audi Q4 e-tron - £4,524 (55) BMW i3 - £3,297.30 (37.9) BMW i4 - £7,020.90 (80.7) BMW iX3 - £6,423.21 (73.83) BMW iX - £6,177 (71) Citroën ë-Berlingo - £4,350 (50) Citroën ë-C4 - £4,350 (50) Citroën ë-Spacetourer - £4,350 (50) Cupra e-Born - £5,394 (62) DS 3 Crossback E-Tense - £4,350 (50) Fiat 500e - £2,088 (24) Ford Mustang Mach-E - £6,585.90 (75.7) Honda e - £3,088.50 (35.5) Hyundai Ioniq 5 - £5,063.40 (58.2) Hyundai Ioniq Electric - £3,332.10 (38.3) Hyundai Kona Electric - £3,410.40 (39.2) Jaguar I-Pace - £7,830 (90) Kia EV6 - £6,733.80 (77.4) Kia e-Niro - £5,568 (64) Kia Soul EV - £5,568 (64) Lexus UX300e - £4,724.10 (54.3) Mazda MX-30 - £3,088.50 (35.5) Mercedes-Benz EQA - £5,785.50 (66.5) Mercedes-Benz EQB - £5,785.50 (66.5) Mercedes-Benz EQC - £6,960 (80) Mercedes-Benz EQE - £7,830 (90) Mercedes-Benz EQS - £9,378.60 (107.8) Mercedes-Benz EQV - £8,700 (100 kWh) MG5 EV - £5,315.70 (61.1 kWh) MG ZS EV - £4,445.70 (51.1) MINI Electric - £2,836.20 (32.6) Nissan E-NV200 COMBI - £3,480 (40) Nissan Leaf - £3,393 (39) Peugeot e-208 - £4,350 (50) Peugeot e-2008 - £4,350 (50) Peugeot e-Rifter - £4,350 (50) Peugeot e-Traveller - £4,350 (50) Polestar 2 - £6,003 (69) Porsche Taycan - £6,890.40 (79.2) Renault Zoe - £4,524 (52) Škoda ENYAQ iV - £6,699 (77) Škoda ENYAQ Coupe - £6,699 (77) Smart fortwo EQ - £1,531.20 (17.6) Tesla Model 3 - £5,420.10 (62.3) Tesla Model S - £8,700 (100) Tesla Model X - £8,700 (100) Tesla Model Y - £6,525 (75) Vauxhall Combo-e Life - £4,350 (50) Vauxhall Corsa-e - £4,350 (50) Vauxhall Mokka-e - £4,350 (50) Vauxhall Vivaro-e Life - £4,350 (50) Volkswagen ID.3 - £5,046 (58) Volkswagen ID.4 - £4,524 (52) Volkswagen ID.5 - £6,699 (77) Volvo C40 Recharge - £6,787 (78) Volvo XC40 Recharge - £6,787 (78)

BillinghamJ 4y ago
This is the price to replace the entire battery pack for these cars? These seem _dramatically_ cheaper than I expected. In my mind, I was thinking more like 3-5x this, though that was incl VAT/tax
- stripline 4y ago
  Post says "battery prices" so I assume that is for the material costs only. I expect labor costs to be a significant adder. It seems replacing an EV's battery would be similar in scope to replacing an ICE car's engine.
  - jeffbee 4y ago
    Not even close to the same amount of work. Replacing the battery pack in my PHEV, should it ever need replacing, which I doubt, involves removing 20 bolts and unplugging it. It drops right out the bottom of the car.
    - logifail 4y ago
      Ok, so stories like the guy who blew up his Model S because he was told a new battery would be $22,000 leave me not knowing what to think.[0] Our official car dealer would happily try and charge $50 to refill the windscreen washer fluid during a routine service :) so maybe the actual cost of the battery unit is only part of the story here. [0] https://electrek.co/2021/12/23/tesla-owner-blows-up-model-s-dynamite-battery-replacement/ https://electrek.co/2021/12/23/tesla-owner-blows-up-model-s-...
      - jeffbee 4y ago
        $22k for a Model S battery doesn't sound very wrong to me, but it's going to be almost all materials and not a lot of labor. The battery I mentioned lists for $5500 from Honda, and it is only 17 kW-h. A Tesla has a 50-100 kW-h pack, so I would expect the cost to be proportionately larger, with a slight discount given Tesla's large battery purchasing power.