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Series director Shakhnazarov is one of the ultra pro-war and pro-Putin celebrities. He’s almost daily on Russian TV spewing hatred against Ukrainians, American

Series director Shakhnazarov is one of the ultra pro-war and pro-Putin celebrities. He’s almost daily on Russian TV spewing hatred against Ukrainians, Americans, minorities. Be careful. It’s tempting to say “not all Germans”, but this case is clear-cut. Anna Karenina is great and there’s plenty of other versions to watch.

mellosouls 4y ago
This interview clip of him pushing back against that narrative would seem to suggest your own case here is not so clear cut: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4Ue45dJxy0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4Ue45dJxy0
- watwut 4y ago
  That is not exactly all that much. It is tiny little something ... and still promotes narrative of Ukraine being "bound" to Russia.
  - pessimizer 4y ago
    So the problem with him is that he's not sufficiently supportive? That's a scary goalpost move.
    - watwut 4y ago
      I will repeat comment you responded to: Series director Shakhnazarov is one of the ultra pro-war and pro-Putin celebrities. He’s almost daily on Russian TV spewing hatred against Ukrainians, Americans, minorities. Be careful. It’s tempting to say “not all Germans”, but this case is clear-cut. Your link is not showing ANYTHING to cancel out the above or undo the damage. He is still spewing hatred. There is literally no goalposts movement, except yours. Lets quote Shakhnazarov in state TV saying approvingly: "The opponents of the letter Z must understand that if they are counting on mercy, no, there will be no mercy for them. [...] There will be concentration camps, re-education, sterilisation of those who oppose the letter Z". This is him saying what should happen.
      - mellosouls 4y ago
        two different commenters...
- lotusmars 4y ago
  Thanks for trying to whitewash him, but no, we Russians know him very well. Sterilization of anti-invasion people is one of the mildest things he suggests. He’s also a huge homophobe standing against “Western homosexual values”. He’s been an almost weekly speaker on Russia 1 channel since 2000’s. His views were on clear display for years. He’s one of the most hawkish anti-Ukrainian and ultraconservative Russian filmmakers save for Mikhalkov. In exchange he’s been given tons of state awards and kept as a head of largest filmmaking company (Mosfilm). Also budgets for productions like this. He had a couple okay-ish films during perestroika (Courier) but afterwards his sole job is a person shouting on state TV how he hates Western gays and Ukrainians. So weird seeing his “works” on HN.
  - mellosouls 4y ago
    Thanks for trying to whitewash him Please assume good faith; your arguments will carry more weight. I googled the guy, and that came up which clearly countered the invective against him here.
pessimizer 4y ago
These don't seem like good reasons to guard your brain from being exposed to him, they sound like good reasons not to be his friend.
- sam_lowry_ 4y ago
  Looking at how well propaganda works in Russia nowadays, I would be vary of being exposed to his recent films.

mellosouls 4y ago

This interview clip of him pushing back against that narrative would seem to suggest your own case here is not so clear cut: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4Ue45dJxy0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f4Ue45dJxy0

watwut 4y ago
That is not exactly all that much. It is tiny little something ... and still promotes narrative of Ukraine being "bound" to Russia.
- pessimizer 4y ago
  So the problem with him is that he's not sufficiently supportive? That's a scary goalpost move.
  - watwut 4y ago
    I will repeat comment you responded to: Series director Shakhnazarov is one of the ultra pro-war and pro-Putin celebrities. He’s almost daily on Russian TV spewing hatred against Ukrainians, Americans, minorities. Be careful. It’s tempting to say “not all Germans”, but this case is clear-cut. Your link is not showing ANYTHING to cancel out the above or undo the damage. He is still spewing hatred. There is literally no goalposts movement, except yours. Lets quote Shakhnazarov in state TV saying approvingly: "The opponents of the letter Z must understand that if they are counting on mercy, no, there will be no mercy for them. [...] There will be concentration camps, re-education, sterilisation of those who oppose the letter Z". This is him saying what should happen.
    - mellosouls 4y ago
      two different commenters...
lotusmars 4y ago
Thanks for trying to whitewash him, but no, we Russians know him very well. Sterilization of anti-invasion people is one of the mildest things he suggests. He’s also a huge homophobe standing against “Western homosexual values”. He’s been an almost weekly speaker on Russia 1 channel since 2000’s. His views were on clear display for years. He’s one of the most hawkish anti-Ukrainian and ultraconservative Russian filmmakers save for Mikhalkov. In exchange he’s been given tons of state awards and kept as a head of largest filmmaking company (Mosfilm). Also budgets for productions like this. He had a couple okay-ish films during perestroika (Courier) but afterwards his sole job is a person shouting on state TV how he hates Western gays and Ukrainians. So weird seeing his “works” on HN.
- mellosouls 4y ago
  Thanks for trying to whitewash him Please assume good faith; your arguments will carry more weight. I googled the guy, and that came up which clearly countered the invective against him here.

pessimizer 4y ago

These don't seem like good reasons to guard your brain from being exposed to him, they sound like good reasons not to be his friend.

sam_lowry_ 4y ago
Looking at how well propaganda works in Russia nowadays, I would be vary of being exposed to his recent films.