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I have a very similar home office setup to you, but not all office environments are 20 year old chairs with burnt nescafe that you pay £1/cup for. My previous j

I have a very similar home office setup to you, but not all office environments are 20 year old chairs with burnt nescafe that you pay £1/cup for. My previous job had independent standing desks, modern aerons, noise cancelling headphones, bean to cup coffee, a few floors above a gym, surrounded by varied lunch options. > Also the lost time in travel - say 2 hours a day I can spend walking My commute to the office was a 35 minute walk each way through a park and a historic city centre. Of course YMMV, but it rubs me the wrong way when people who decided to take on long commutes for better pay talk about how it's being taken away from them and everyone should feel the same way, when lots of people make the compromise of living in a city to not have those problems.

sph 4y ago
> My previous job had independent standing desks, modern aerons, noise cancelling headphones, bean to cup coffee, a few floors above a gym, surrounded by varied lunch options Yeah that sounds nice, but it is more comfortable than your own home?
- throw-ru-938 4y ago
  Not the GP but yes. Not everyone lives in a luxury house.
  - badpun 4y ago
    It's not luxury if there's 7 other people (talking, making noises etc.) in the same room with you. It's basically a hostel room.
    - throw-ru-938 4y ago
      Allow me to introduce you to the concepts of 'roommates' and 'children'. (Some of my colleagues returned to the office as soon as it was allowed, just to spend some time away from their families.)
  - sph 4y ago
    Nobody talked about luxury. The point of your home is a space for you designed by you. That's the definition of comfortable. Otherwise it's just a living space with a bed. In that case I would urge one to get themselves a home rather than an office job with great perks. That's a better investment in my book. No, I don't mean buying, even a shared rented flat could be your home.
    - throw-ru-938 4y ago
      Here on the European continent having enough space for a dedicated office is literally luxurious.
      - sph 4y ago
        I have a office room in a decently affordable rented flat in London of all places. Let's not keep moving those goalposts.
        throw-ru-938 4y ago
        Genuinely glad for you! In Moscow I don't know anyone who has a dedicated office room, even in a rented flat. (And don't even get me started at buying.)
- ghaff 4y ago
  For a lot of people, one of the things is having a change of scenery. I doubt I'd go in if I felt I had to wear headphones to work--I'm mostly fine with working in ambient social noise--but if I had a comfortable office a modest and pleasant walk away, I'd probably go in one or two days a week for variety.
- maccard 4y ago
  My sofa is more comfortable than my desk, but that doesn't mean I work there.
piva00 4y ago
> My commute to the office was a 35 minute walk each way through a park and a historic city centre. Of course YMMV, but it rubs me the wrong way when people who decided to take on long commutes for better pay talk about how it's being taken away from them and everyone should feel the same way, when lots of people make the compromise of living in a city to not have those problems. And for that in a hybrid setup you still have the option to walk to work. You can't expect every soul in an office to be able to afford a central place where you can walk to the office, it's simply not feasible. YMMV a lot, not sure why your anecdote should be taken as an argument, very few people have the privilege to afford a central location to live in, many more have to commute.
scambier 4y ago
> it rubs me the wrong way when people who decided to take on long commutes for better pay talk about how it's being taken away from them Sure, everyone happens to live right next to several good potential employers in their field, but instead choses to take a job further away because money.
chadcmulligan 4y ago
> My previous job had independent standing desks, modern aerons, noise cancelling headphones, bean to cup coffee, a few floors above a gym, surrounded by varied lunch options. I have never seen an office like this, except on TV.
- maccard 4y ago
  Lots of offices like this exist, just like lots of cubicle farms where wearing khakis is considered "dressing down".

sph 4y ago

> My previous job had independent standing desks, modern aerons, noise cancelling headphones, bean to cup coffee, a few floors above a gym, surrounded by varied lunch options Yeah that sounds nice, but it is more comfortable than your own home?

throw-ru-938 4y ago
Not the GP but yes. Not everyone lives in a luxury house.
- badpun 4y ago
  It's not luxury if there's 7 other people (talking, making noises etc.) in the same room with you. It's basically a hostel room.
  - throw-ru-938 4y ago
    Allow me to introduce you to the concepts of 'roommates' and 'children'. (Some of my colleagues returned to the office as soon as it was allowed, just to spend some time away from their families.)
- sph 4y ago
  Nobody talked about luxury. The point of your home is a space for you designed by you. That's the definition of comfortable. Otherwise it's just a living space with a bed. In that case I would urge one to get themselves a home rather than an office job with great perks. That's a better investment in my book. No, I don't mean buying, even a shared rented flat could be your home.
  - throw-ru-938 4y ago
    Here on the European continent having enough space for a dedicated office is literally luxurious.
    - sph 4y ago
      I have a office room in a decently affordable rented flat in London of all places. Let's not keep moving those goalposts.
      - throw-ru-938 4y ago
        Genuinely glad for you! In Moscow I don't know anyone who has a dedicated office room, even in a rented flat. (And don't even get me started at buying.)
ghaff 4y ago
For a lot of people, one of the things is having a change of scenery. I doubt I'd go in if I felt I had to wear headphones to work--I'm mostly fine with working in ambient social noise--but if I had a comfortable office a modest and pleasant walk away, I'd probably go in one or two days a week for variety.
maccard 4y ago
My sofa is more comfortable than my desk, but that doesn't mean I work there.

piva00 4y ago

> My commute to the office was a 35 minute walk each way through a park and a historic city centre. Of course YMMV, but it rubs me the wrong way when people who decided to take on long commutes for better pay talk about how it's being taken away from them and everyone should feel the same way, when lots of people make the compromise of living in a city to not have those problems. And for that in a hybrid setup you still have the option to walk to work. You can't expect every soul in an office to be able to afford a central place where you can walk to the office, it's simply not feasible. YMMV a lot, not sure why your anecdote should be taken as an argument, very few people have the privilege to afford a central location to live in, many more have to commute.

scambier 4y ago

> it rubs me the wrong way when people who decided to take on long commutes for better pay talk about how it's being taken away from them Sure, everyone happens to live right next to several good potential employers in their field, but instead choses to take a job further away because money.

chadcmulligan 4y ago

> My previous job had independent standing desks, modern aerons, noise cancelling headphones, bean to cup coffee, a few floors above a gym, surrounded by varied lunch options. I have never seen an office like this, except on TV.

maccard 4y ago
Lots of offices like this exist, just like lots of cubicle farms where wearing khakis is considered "dressing down".