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> “we are a family” is all hot air Is and always has been nonsense. Team? Yes! Family? Families members don’t get added and removed based on market value. Also

by jahnu 4y ago

> “we are a family” is all hot air Is and always has been nonsense. Team? Yes! Family? Families members don’t get added and removed based on market value. Also the heads of the family don’t split with a huge chunk of the family treasure when a certain goal has been reached, leaving the rest to call someone else father and mother ;) Always cringed at that one, even when meant well.

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slfnflctd 4y ago
> "family" It certainly can feel more that way when the majority of employees have worked together in the same place for decades, when management has gone out of their way multiple times to accommodate individuals as difficult personal issues arose, and when most of the staff aren't constantly searching for better pay elsewhere. I have seen it. However, I think that sort of situation is very much an increasingly rare exception, and unfortunately most of the managers using this kind of language are blowing hot air. It's like success or 'greatness', if you feel compelled to keep telling everyone you have it, you probably don't.
- silicon2401 4y ago
  I've been lucky enough to experience that as well, and it's actually great. Despite the pay having been quite low, I actually enjoyed working there enough that I always have it in the back of my mind to go back one day. It's such a rare privilege to work in a place where you feel like everyone gets along and you're really a team working together, rather than individuals trying to meet deadlines under the same employer
ryanbrunner 4y ago
Even "team" is inaccurate, if they include execs on that team. Execs aren't on the same team as you - if we keep the sports analogy, they're the owners. You shouldn't expect comraderie or putting your team above yourself from the people managing you - if it's cheaper and more effective for you not to be on the team, or for your team to move to a different city, that's what's going to happen.
benibela 4y ago
And family cuddles together

by jahnu 4y ago

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slfnflctd 4y ago

> "family" It certainly can feel more that way when the majority of employees have worked together in the same place for decades, when management has gone out of their way multiple times to accommodate individuals as difficult personal issues arose, and when most of the staff aren't constantly searching for better pay elsewhere. I have seen it. However, I think that sort of situation is very much an increasingly rare exception, and unfortunately most of the managers using this kind of language are blowing hot air. It's like success or 'greatness', if you feel compelled to keep telling everyone you have it, you probably don't.

silicon2401 4y ago
I've been lucky enough to experience that as well, and it's actually great. Despite the pay having been quite low, I actually enjoyed working there enough that I always have it in the back of my mind to go back one day. It's such a rare privilege to work in a place where you feel like everyone gets along and you're really a team working together, rather than individuals trying to meet deadlines under the same employer

ryanbrunner 4y ago

Even "team" is inaccurate, if they include execs on that team. Execs aren't on the same team as you - if we keep the sports analogy, they're the owners. You shouldn't expect comraderie or putting your team above yourself from the people managing you - if it's cheaper and more effective for you not to be on the team, or for your team to move to a different city, that's what's going to happen.

benibela 4y ago

And family cuddles together