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> Native market I still see massive amounts of penny pinchers looking for top talent while doing almost everything they can to stall the important details for a

> Native market I still see massive amounts of penny pinchers looking for top talent while doing almost everything they can to stall the important details for as long as possible. Yes, that means rather rushed job interviews filled with questions and lengthy processes to not even have any idea what the entire package will be prior to getting an offer, only for that offer to be middling and mediocre. I have noticed this trend as of late and while normally I would say it is the candidate's fault for not asking these questions early on, it is not as if you had any chance to do so as the first interview rounds are done with engineers and potential colleagues. They want to leave the big money talk to the end, and that, coupled with the hesitancy to even post salary ranges, can make for really frustrating and disappointing experiences after exhausting hiring processes.

BlargMcLarg 4y ago
Even if you did have a chance, problem is it's still a numbers game. For every developer not willing to go through that process, odds are they will find 5 who will, while having their current employees accept doing more work than they realistically should to offset cases of 'nobody wants to be hired'. When the inevitable burnouts come in, managers seem to just ignore it and accept it for what it as 'that's just part of life' or something. For every company willing to disclose things upfront prior to the first interview, there will be a few dozen who'd rather do the whole song and dance trying to stick to their culture or worse, proactively use sunken cost fallacies to reel you in. Of course the more experience you have, the more you can fight against this. But I suspect even most seniors struggle with this. Many would rather jump ship to management / pseudo-management or accept things as is than talk and fight back together.

BlargMcLarg 4y ago

Even if you did have a chance, problem is it's still a numbers game. For every developer not willing to go through that process, odds are they will find 5 who will, while having their current employees accept doing more work than they realistically should to offset cases of 'nobody wants to be hired'. When the inevitable burnouts come in, managers seem to just ignore it and accept it for what it as 'that's just part of life' or something. For every company willing to disclose things upfront prior to the first interview, there will be a few dozen who'd rather do the whole song and dance trying to stick to their culture or worse, proactively use sunken cost fallacies to reel you in. Of course the more experience you have, the more you can fight against this. But I suspect even most seniors struggle with this. Many would rather jump ship to management / pseudo-management or accept things as is than talk and fight back together.