> The dishonesty stems from the intent and tactics > Asking a lot of questions is really not a valid form of debate It's the same question, actually. > I do n

> The dishonesty stems from the intent and tactics > Asking a lot of questions is really not a valid form of debate It's the same question, actually. > I do not believe that lab animals should exist, period. What you believe it's irrelevant. > You are in search for a replacement solution to drug development. I'm perfectly fine with what we have. You're rhetoric skills must be quite weak if you need to put words in my mouth. > I am not. There lies our dispute. I feel that it is okay to not be able to solve this "problem" because our current solution is exploitative and wrong. Then just don't use drugs or any product coming from animals. Watch this https://www.ted.com/talks/christien_meindertsma_how_pig_parts_make_the_world_turn/transcript?language=en https://www.ted.com/talks/christien_meindertsma_how_pig_part... > I agree that often in human trials, the people who volunteer are poor or desperate Nobody said it and not necessarily. They are simply ill. You can't use healthy people to prove a drug works... > since work itself is a coerced form of volunteerism with the societal threat of homelessness. > Pretty much all of capitalism is coerced, (・_・ ヾ «The dishonesty stems from the intent and tactics»