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State sponsored assassinations are almost always immediately identifiable which means it's not going to work in their favour. Abe also retired at the end of 202

State sponsored assassinations are almost always immediately identifiable which means it's not going to work in their favour. Abe also retired at the end of 2020 and the amount of influence he can still exert is to prop up his own intra-party faction, not direct international policy. Sino-Japanese trade was also consistently growing in latter half of his term. Real life isn't a fiction or video game. This type of whacky beer talk is neither interesting or amusing. Please familiarize yourself with some basic context of the subject before making grotesque insinuations about it.

rramadass 4y ago
>State sponsored assassinations are almost always immediately identifiable This is clueless and childish naivete; do you believe everything you see and hear? In Geopolitics one should never ever accept the superficial and face-value explanation but should always try to look behind the curtain. There is a reason China is celebrating his assassination. Abe was single-handedly responsible for establishing, driving and bankrolling the Quad (Quadrilateral Security Dialogue between USA, Japan, India and Australia) which is a direct and serious threat to China. And no he didn't disappear after retirement as you seem to think; men of his stature and influence always have the ear of policy makers until the end. We will see what the investigators uncover but nobody should buy assassin confessed simplistic explanations until we have more information. It is but one plausible explanation among a set which needs to be "proven". Until then we need to explore all possibilities.
- ssnistfajen 4y ago
  >There is a reason China is celebrating his assassination By edgy Internet users. The state had already sent condolences through official diplomatic channels. Do you believe trending Twitter hashtags as official statements from entire countries as well? >Abe was single-handedly responsible for establishing, driving and bankrolling the Quad (Quadrilateral Security Dialogue between USA, Japan, India and Australia) which is a direct and serious threat to China. You think one person did it single-handedly? Let me repeat your own question: do you believe everything you see and hear? Are you aware there is a major player in Asia-Pacific that isn't geographically located there? >And no he didn't disappear after retirement as you seem to think; men of his stature and influence always have the ear of policy makers until the end. Where did I say he disappeared? Read my comments again. He's not the first senior party member in the LDP. Previous ones don't directly meddle with current government policy or it would be a constitutional crisis. The only ones who need to explore all possibilities are the investigators indeed, not some random person boasting flimsy conspiracy theories on an Internet forum that usually doesn't even have anything to do with this sort of topic anyways. There's a special sort of irony in the mentions of "clueless and childish naïveté", and you seem to lack the awareness for that.
  - rramadass 4y ago
    You are just reinforcing my "clueless and naivete" comment about your posts; >By edgy Internet users. The state had already sent condolences through official diplomatic channels. Do you believe trending Twitter hashtags as official statements from entire countries as well? No, the state-owned media were more nuanced in their attack. See the commentary from the state-owned "Global Times" - https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202207/1270082.shtml https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202207/1270082.shtml. Also keep in mind that Internet media is officially "The Fifth Estate" and is used by Govts. the world over to influence public policy. It would be foolish to dismiss them all. >You think one person did it single-handedly? Again, you have no idea what you are talking about. Abe was instrumental in getting India into the Quad which is no mean achievement given that India wanted no part of it in the beginning. He also shared military intelligence with India which has never been done before and was willing to bankroll the entire thing. See - https://www.sundayguardianlive.com/news/shinzo-abe-controversial-figure-tore-ties-apart-china https://www.sundayguardianlive.com/news/shinzo-abe-controver... >He's not the first senior party member in the LDP. Previous ones don't directly meddle with current government policy or it would be a constitutional crisis. Abe was very very different from previous Japanese politicians in that he was more assertive w.r.t. military matters, was willing to put money where his mouth was and in a word was a "doer". I urge a study of Geopolitics for personal edification.
    - ssnistfajen 4y ago
      It's rather painful to see the fantasy rabbithole you got yourself sucked into. Reality isn't spy fiction. Get a grip. Your utter lack of self-awareness and taking pride in ignorance is plain laughable. Have fun with your cooked up conspiracy theory. The Internet has way too many of them already so good luck at getting recognition as an unseen genius.
      - rramadass 4y ago
        Reality is often stranger than Fiction. I put forth some plausible scenarios with sources whereas you have no data nor information to backup your simplistic viewpoint (except of course the assassin's say so). There is no nuance in any of your posts which is quite sad actually. As the saying goes; "It is the mark of an Educated Mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it". Perhaps you lack the needed Education. Here is a link to start with : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realism_(international_relations) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realism_(international_relatio...

rramadass 4y ago

>State sponsored assassinations are almost always immediately identifiable This is clueless and childish naivete; do you believe everything you see and hear? In Geopolitics one should never ever accept the superficial and face-value explanation but should always try to look behind the curtain. There is a reason China is celebrating his assassination. Abe was single-handedly responsible for establishing, driving and bankrolling the Quad (Quadrilateral Security Dialogue between USA, Japan, India and Australia) which is a direct and serious threat to China. And no he didn't disappear after retirement as you seem to think; men of his stature and influence always have the ear of policy makers until the end. We will see what the investigators uncover but nobody should buy assassin confessed simplistic explanations until we have more information. It is but one plausible explanation among a set which needs to be "proven". Until then we need to explore all possibilities.

ssnistfajen 4y ago
>There is a reason China is celebrating his assassination By edgy Internet users. The state had already sent condolences through official diplomatic channels. Do you believe trending Twitter hashtags as official statements from entire countries as well? >Abe was single-handedly responsible for establishing, driving and bankrolling the Quad (Quadrilateral Security Dialogue between USA, Japan, India and Australia) which is a direct and serious threat to China. You think one person did it single-handedly? Let me repeat your own question: do you believe everything you see and hear? Are you aware there is a major player in Asia-Pacific that isn't geographically located there? >And no he didn't disappear after retirement as you seem to think; men of his stature and influence always have the ear of policy makers until the end. Where did I say he disappeared? Read my comments again. He's not the first senior party member in the LDP. Previous ones don't directly meddle with current government policy or it would be a constitutional crisis. The only ones who need to explore all possibilities are the investigators indeed, not some random person boasting flimsy conspiracy theories on an Internet forum that usually doesn't even have anything to do with this sort of topic anyways. There's a special sort of irony in the mentions of "clueless and childish naïveté", and you seem to lack the awareness for that.
- rramadass 4y ago
  You are just reinforcing my "clueless and naivete" comment about your posts; >By edgy Internet users. The state had already sent condolences through official diplomatic channels. Do you believe trending Twitter hashtags as official statements from entire countries as well? No, the state-owned media were more nuanced in their attack. See the commentary from the state-owned "Global Times" - https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202207/1270082.shtml https://www.globaltimes.cn/page/202207/1270082.shtml. Also keep in mind that Internet media is officially "The Fifth Estate" and is used by Govts. the world over to influence public policy. It would be foolish to dismiss them all. >You think one person did it single-handedly? Again, you have no idea what you are talking about. Abe was instrumental in getting India into the Quad which is no mean achievement given that India wanted no part of it in the beginning. He also shared military intelligence with India which has never been done before and was willing to bankroll the entire thing. See - https://www.sundayguardianlive.com/news/shinzo-abe-controversial-figure-tore-ties-apart-china https://www.sundayguardianlive.com/news/shinzo-abe-controver... >He's not the first senior party member in the LDP. Previous ones don't directly meddle with current government policy or it would be a constitutional crisis. Abe was very very different from previous Japanese politicians in that he was more assertive w.r.t. military matters, was willing to put money where his mouth was and in a word was a "doer". I urge a study of Geopolitics for personal edification.
  - ssnistfajen 4y ago
    It's rather painful to see the fantasy rabbithole you got yourself sucked into. Reality isn't spy fiction. Get a grip. Your utter lack of self-awareness and taking pride in ignorance is plain laughable. Have fun with your cooked up conspiracy theory. The Internet has way too many of them already so good luck at getting recognition as an unseen genius.
    - rramadass 4y ago
      Reality is often stranger than Fiction. I put forth some plausible scenarios with sources whereas you have no data nor information to backup your simplistic viewpoint (except of course the assassin's say so). There is no nuance in any of your posts which is quite sad actually. As the saying goes; "It is the mark of an Educated Mind to be able to entertain a thought without accepting it". Perhaps you lack the needed Education. Here is a link to start with : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realism_(international_relations) https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Realism_(international_relatio...