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> Closed FFP2/N95-style masks work. Schools are not going to mandate this, and even if they do kids will wear them loose/wrong. So knowing that, where do schoo

> Closed FFP2/N95-style masks work. Schools are not going to mandate this, and even if they do kids will wear them loose/wrong. So knowing that, where do school boards go from here?

badtoro 4y ago
- verve_rat 4y ago
  - toomim 4y ago
    Children age 2-5 are learning faces and how to speak. If they can't see each other's faces and mouths, they don't learn a basic part of human interaction. Think a little more broadly about "harm".
    - seba_dos1 4y ago
      Maybe they'll end up being more understanding and kind to autistic people who have troubles with reading faces or maintaining eye contact regardless of being raised up with masks or not. That would be nice.
      - toomim 4y ago
        The upside of having a developmental disability is that you have compassion for other people with developmental disabilities? Ok.
        seba_dos1 4y ago
        Yes, obviously. A lot of trauma suffered by people on the spectrum does not come from their autism, but from how other people assume that everyone else is like them. Reading faces is not an essential skill that everyone needs to learn in order to operate in a healthy society, the only reason people who lack that skill have troubles is because it is expected from them by others to have it. If we raise a generation where a significant percentage of people don't develop this skill very well, we may end up with a society that doesn't expect others to rely on skills they haven't developed, making everyone's life easier.
        toomim 4y ago
        If I could choose between a society where 80% of people can read faces, vs. one where 90% can read faces, I'd choose the one where more people can read faces. It makes everyone's life easier when more people can read each other's faces.
  - MuchoMaas 4y ago
amluto 4y ago
Now? Strongly encourage everyone to get vaccinated (to protect themselves, not others — the current vaccines don’t provide substantial protection to others any more). Encourage people who feel the need for extra personal protection to wear N95 masks and feel comfortable doing so. Encourage anyone who is sick to stay home (which was good sense before COVID anyway). Try to improve ventilation (which is also a good idea regardless of COVID). Encourage students to spend more time outside (again, a good idea regardless of COVID). And accept that outbreaks are going to happen. There is, currently, no magic bullet available that will work in a school setting.
ClumsyPilot 4y ago
ventillation, air purifiers and upper-room UV sterilisation are all cheap and practical solutions that shoukd be installed in every public building. the fact thats uts still nit obvious, 2 years on us absurd

> Closed FFP2/N95-style masks work. Schools are not going to mandate this, and even if they do kids will wear them loose/wrong. So knowing that, where do school boards go from here?

badtoro 4y ago

verve_rat 4y ago
- toomim 4y ago
  Children age 2-5 are learning faces and how to speak. If they can't see each other's faces and mouths, they don't learn a basic part of human interaction. Think a little more broadly about "harm".
  - seba_dos1 4y ago
    Maybe they'll end up being more understanding and kind to autistic people who have troubles with reading faces or maintaining eye contact regardless of being raised up with masks or not. That would be nice.
    - toomim 4y ago
      The upside of having a developmental disability is that you have compassion for other people with developmental disabilities? Ok.
      - seba_dos1 4y ago
        Yes, obviously. A lot of trauma suffered by people on the spectrum does not come from their autism, but from how other people assume that everyone else is like them. Reading faces is not an essential skill that everyone needs to learn in order to operate in a healthy society, the only reason people who lack that skill have troubles is because it is expected from them by others to have it. If we raise a generation where a significant percentage of people don't develop this skill very well, we may end up with a society that doesn't expect others to rely on skills they haven't developed, making everyone's life easier.
        toomim 4y ago
        If I could choose between a society where 80% of people can read faces, vs. one where 90% can read faces, I'd choose the one where more people can read faces. It makes everyone's life easier when more people can read each other's faces.
- MuchoMaas 4y ago

amluto 4y ago

Now? Strongly encourage everyone to get vaccinated (to protect themselves, not others — the current vaccines don’t provide substantial protection to others any more). Encourage people who feel the need for extra personal protection to wear N95 masks and feel comfortable doing so. Encourage anyone who is sick to stay home (which was good sense before COVID anyway). Try to improve ventilation (which is also a good idea regardless of COVID). Encourage students to spend more time outside (again, a good idea regardless of COVID). And accept that outbreaks are going to happen. There is, currently, no magic bullet available that will work in a school setting.

ClumsyPilot 4y ago

ventillation, air purifiers and upper-room UV sterilisation are all cheap and practical solutions that shoukd be installed in every public building. the fact thats uts still nit obvious, 2 years on us absurd