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okay, go poll Ukrainians, Poles, Czechs, ...

Al-Khwarizmi 4y ago
Yeah, because polling your closest friends is the best way to get an unbiased opinion. By the way, those are countries near another warmonging superpower... What if you poll South America?
calsy 4y ago
Didn't the states just pull out of Afghanistan after 20 years of occupation? Or is that last years news? 20 Years! Edit: Downvotes, whats the best way to deal with colossal failure... pretend like it never happened. Afghanistan, huh? what are you talking about.
- judge2020 4y ago
  Afghanistan is quite infamous for being the most difficult region to take over; the Brits and the Soviets tried before long the US did https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasions_of_Afghanistan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasions_of_Afghanistan
  - calsy 4y ago
    Well maybe those in power should have read up on their history before trying to 'take over' Afghanistan. Might have been a good idea for a country half a world a way, separated by a large ocean.
  - yunohn 4y ago
    I’m confused if your point is that the USA didn’t end up completely ruling over Afghanistan, so their military occupation and genocide is excusable?
random314 4y ago
And latin America and Afghanistan and Iraq and cuba and Vietnam and Palestine and Yemen
- throwaway743 4y ago
  iirc, Somalia, Congo, and Iran as well
  - throwaway743 4y ago
    Lol okay downvote but it's relevant and true. CIA helped in getting Lumumba and wanted to put a halt to his movement. They along with Belgian officers even tried killing him by poisoning his toothpaste. CIA overthrew Mosaddegh in Iran which lead to where they are today in terms of an oppresive theocratic government. And US military and CIA are acting as world police in Somalia.
- throwawaymaths 4y ago
  The us occupied Palestine? I better review my history.
  - bakuninsbart 4y ago
    There's a lot of very nasty, bad-faith arguments in this thread, and you seem to be involved in almost all of them. It is time to take a step back and consider what this kind of derailing does to the quality of discussion overall. The point is obvious to anyone even tangentially following the israel-palestine conflict: Israel is a close ally to the us and heavily supported by them in their brutal occupation of Palestine.
    - throwawaymaths 4y ago
      > It is time to take a step back and consider what this kind of derailing does to the quality of discussion overall. Yes sir! Will do sir! Thank you for improving the quality of discourse sir!! Where would we be without your guidance sir!

Yeah, because polling your closest friends is the best way to get an unbiased opinion. By the way, those are countries near another warmonging superpower... What if you poll South America?

calsy 4y ago

Didn't the states just pull out of Afghanistan after 20 years of occupation? Or is that last years news? 20 Years! Edit: Downvotes, whats the best way to deal with colossal failure... pretend like it never happened. Afghanistan, huh? what are you talking about.

judge2020 4y ago
Afghanistan is quite infamous for being the most difficult region to take over; the Brits and the Soviets tried before long the US did https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasions_of_Afghanistan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasions_of_Afghanistan
- calsy 4y ago
  Well maybe those in power should have read up on their history before trying to 'take over' Afghanistan. Might have been a good idea for a country half a world a way, separated by a large ocean.
- yunohn 4y ago
  I’m confused if your point is that the USA didn’t end up completely ruling over Afghanistan, so their military occupation and genocide is excusable?

random314 4y ago

And latin America and Afghanistan and Iraq and cuba and Vietnam and Palestine and Yemen

throwaway743 4y ago
iirc, Somalia, Congo, and Iran as well
- throwaway743 4y ago
  Lol okay downvote but it's relevant and true. CIA helped in getting Lumumba and wanted to put a halt to his movement. They along with Belgian officers even tried killing him by poisoning his toothpaste. CIA overthrew Mosaddegh in Iran which lead to where they are today in terms of an oppresive theocratic government. And US military and CIA are acting as world police in Somalia.
throwawaymaths 4y ago
The us occupied Palestine? I better review my history.
- bakuninsbart 4y ago
  There's a lot of very nasty, bad-faith arguments in this thread, and you seem to be involved in almost all of them. It is time to take a step back and consider what this kind of derailing does to the quality of discussion overall. The point is obvious to anyone even tangentially following the israel-palestine conflict: Israel is a close ally to the us and heavily supported by them in their brutal occupation of Palestine.
  - throwawaymaths 4y ago
    > It is time to take a step back and consider what this kind of derailing does to the quality of discussion overall. Yes sir! Will do sir! Thank you for improving the quality of discourse sir!! Where would we be without your guidance sir!