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You would be surprised if you polled non-US, non-China citizens about what country is the biggest geopolitical threat to the world. Wait, I don't even need to
by Al-Khwarizmi 4y ago
You would be surprised if you polled non-US, non-China citizens about what country is the biggest geopolitical threat to the world.
Wait, I don't even need to talk in conditionals. I Googled it and apparently it has indeed been done several times, and the results are what I expected.
https://brilliantmaps.com/threat-to-peace/ https://brilliantmaps.com/threat-to-peace/
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/05/us-threat-democracy-russia-china-global-poll https://www.theguardian.com/world/2021/may/05/us-threat-demo...
- konschubert 4y agookay, go poll Ukrainians, Poles, Czechs, ...
- Al-Khwarizmi 4y agoYeah, because polling your closest friends is the best way to get an unbiased opinion. By the way, those are countries near another warmonging superpower... What if you poll South America?
- calsy 4y agoDidn't the states just pull out of Afghanistan after 20 years of occupation? Or is that last years news? 20 Years! Edit: Downvotes, whats the best way to deal with colossal failure... pretend like it never happened. Afghanistan, huh? what are you talking about.
- judge2020 4y agoAfghanistan is quite infamous for being the most difficult region to take over; the Brits and the Soviets tried before long the US did https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasions_of_Afghanistan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasions_of_Afghanistan
- calsy 4y agoWell maybe those in power should have read up on their history before trying to 'take over' Afghanistan. Might have been a good idea for a country half a world a way, separated by a large ocean.
- yunohn 4y agoI’m confused if your point is that the USA didn’t end up completely ruling over Afghanistan, so their military occupation and genocide is excusable?
- random314 4y agoAnd latin America and Afghanistan and Iraq and cuba and Vietnam and Palestine and Yemen
- throwaway743 4y agoiirc, Somalia, Congo, and Iran as well
- throwaway743 4y agoLol okay downvote but it's relevant and true. CIA helped in getting Lumumba and wanted to put a halt to his movement. They along with Belgian officers even tried killing him by poisoning his toothpaste. CIA overthrew Mosaddegh in Iran which lead to where they are today in terms of an oppresive theocratic government. And US military and CIA are acting as world police in Somalia.
- throwawaymaths 4y agoThe us occupied Palestine? I better review my history.
- bakuninsbart 4y agoThere's a lot of very nasty, bad-faith arguments in this thread, and you seem to be involved in almost all of them. It is time to take a step back and consider what this kind of derailing does to the quality of discussion overall. The point is obvious to anyone even tangentially following the israel-palestine conflict: Israel is a close ally to the us and heavily supported by them in their brutal occupation of Palestine.
- throwawaymaths 4y ago> It is time to take a step back and consider what this kind of derailing does to the quality of discussion overall. Yes sir! Will do sir! Thank you for improving the quality of discourse sir!! Where would we be without your guidance sir!
- edmcnulty101 4y ago
- throwaway6734 4y ago>The single biggest cited threat to democracy is economic inequality (64%). These are the results of people that have lived under a unipolar world and have forgotten the horrors of pre pax americana.
- EastSmith 4y agoWhole eastern Europe, central Europe and Scandinavia disagrees with you.
- neilsense 4y agoA tiny population rarely in control of their own future, and ethnically + culturally acceptable to the US.
- parasti 4y agoLet me rephrase your comment: "Eastern European opinion on Russia doesn't matter because they've suffered and continue to suffer from Russian imperialism".
- neilsense 4y agoNo, please don't speak for me. If anything, my point was the same but for people in Asia in regards to China/Russia.
- illuminati1911 4y ago
- galactus 4y ago“ First of all average people's opinions outside of western democracies are meaningless because those people don't have access to education or information to form any real opinions.” This is insane. Your arrogance and total ignorance about the rest of the world is just crazy.
- tenpies 4y agoIt's exactly 1 and 2 why the world largely considers the US such a threat. Any disagreement is discounted as "you're just ignorant and don't have a real opinion" followed by "you need to trust The Experts, but only the ones that agree with us". It has been a hoot to watch the US Democrats and all their useful idiots turn these arguments against the rest of the US over the last 6 years. Probably ends as well as Afghanistan, Vietnam, Iraq, Syria, etc.
- throwaway743 4y agoIt's both parties. They're both awful, condescending in their own "flavor", and don't give two shits about you and me.
- arroz 4y agoChina has also invaded Vietnam Russia has also invaded Afghanistan FYI
- trashtester 4y agoThe difference is that we don't have Hollywood movies about those. The real reasons why people hate America so much is not US military actions (though that has contributed in some cases), but American culture. Nationalists worldwide absolutely hate it when young people in their countries drink Coke, eat at McDonalds, wear Levi's, consume US Music, Movies and video games, social media, etc. US culture has been displacing other cultures gradually for about 100 years. If you are a westerner, consider the impact of Tik-Tok, and multiply it by 100x, then you may even empathize with them.
- Calvin02 4y agoPolls from 2017 and 2021. Do you think that the answer to this question will be the same post Covid and Russia’s invasion of Ukraine? And, in the same light, China’s increasingly threatening rhetoric against Taiwan?
- anothernewdude 4y agoActually the first poll is from 2013, the post is from 2017. And the second is from 2020, again the post is from 2021.
- trashtester 4y agoThe second poll is not about world peace, but about democracy. Historically, the US has been promoting democracy worldwide (and this has been a major contributor to their belligerence). With their ongoing schism between MAGA and WOKE, there is a risk they will end up non-democratic themselves, either as some kind of facisit or socialist. THAT, and the fact that this conflict is being exported to other democratic countries is a threat to democracy, although not so much to World Peace. 2013 was before Russia's first hostilities against Ukraine and also before China started to flex their military muscles. Also, at that time, the Obama administration was involved in several wars as well as the use of drone warfare against their enemies elsewhere. I don't find it surprising that many would feel that the US was the greater threat at that time, even though the threat level overall was much lower at the time.
- arroz 4y agoNon US, non China citizen: the pool is from 2013, China and Russia got much worst with time Trust me, Russia and especially China is a much bigger threat to democracy nowadays
- stackbutterflow 4y agoNon-US, non-China citizens don't speak Chinese but they speak English (or their journalists do). US shenanigans are for the whole world to see. You probably can't read Chinese so you have no idea how the Chinese government and their citizen view the rest of the world.
- andruby 4y agoThat feels like a weak argument. OP is talking geopolitics, not domestic shenanigans. I think internationals news happily picks up Chinese international interventions.
- stackbutterflow 4y agoThe situation is like highlighting the British empire's horrible actions while downplaying Nazi Germany's because they haven't invaded anyone (yet) and not knowing what Hitler and his friends have in store because of the language barrier. And that's not a Godwin because the CCP's rhetoric these recent years is extremely racist and aggressive. They are feeding their population with a warped view of non-Han, non-Chinese people.
- sebbu 4y agoCCP has always been extremely racist and aggressive, at least according to all the web novels i've been reading (translated into english, as i don't speak chinese).