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Cisco is not a SSD manufacturer. They write industry-wide bug. Does that mean that more than one SSD manufacturer is affected (because they use partially the sa

Cisco is not a SSD manufacturer. They write industry-wide bug. Does that mean that more than one SSD manufacturer is affected (because they use partially the same firmware)? Further down they mention only Sandisk. Or is the industry-wide just their newspeak for saying any Sandisk of affected model, regardless whether installed in a Cisco box or somewhere else?

dr_zoidberg 4y ago
I'm interested here too. I've got a Crucial SSD from 2015 that's been on about: * 100% of 2015-2017, let's add 2 years here * Aboutish 50% of days since 2018 to 2020 * On and off again (5%?) since then until now. So it's about 3 years of full use? I'm eyeballing the use here. So it may be close to the numbers that were given, but I'm not sure. Guess I could check the SMART stats to get a precise number and from there decide what to do about it. Searching a bit it seems it's a well-known bug in "enterprise SSDs"[0, 1] (which my drive certainly isn't) but there aren't any real details about what causes it, other than "a firmaware bug". [0] https://www.servethehome.com/hpe-issues-hpd7-fix-for-ssds-that-will-fail-at-40000-hours/ https://www.servethehome.com/hpe-issues-hpd7-fix-for-ssds-th... [1] https://www.anandtech.com/show/15673/dell-hpe-updates-for-40k-hour-essd-failures https://www.anandtech.com/show/15673/dell-hpe-updates-for-40...
dredmorbius 4y ago
The problem seems to be widely experienced. The Cisco report turned up in response to a post I'd made of the HN issue on the Fediverse: https://mastodon.infra.de/@galaxis/108622795822100862 https://mastodon.infra.de/@galaxis/108622795822100862
- dredmorbius 4y ago
  Dang also listed a few previous submissions on the topic. None of which gained traction at the time: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32038993 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32038993
wtallis 4y ago
Enterprise SSDs are commonly made by one of a handful of dominant companies and then rebranded by server vendors, so that you can see a SanDisk or Samsung SSD sold as a Dell EMC or Cisco or HPE drive.
McNutty 4y ago
I suspect that "industry-wide bug" in this context is simply Cisco pointing out to their customer base that this isn't Cisco's fault and please don't blame Cisco.
Neil44 4y ago
If you google SSD 40000 hours you will find many box shifters affected, Dell, HP, IBM etc.

dr_zoidberg 4y ago

I'm interested here too. I've got a Crucial SSD from 2015 that's been on about: * 100% of 2015-2017, let's add 2 years here * Aboutish 50% of days since 2018 to 2020 * On and off again (5%?) since then until now. So it's about 3 years of full use? I'm eyeballing the use here. So it may be close to the numbers that were given, but I'm not sure. Guess I could check the SMART stats to get a precise number and from there decide what to do about it. Searching a bit it seems it's a well-known bug in "enterprise SSDs"[0, 1] (which my drive certainly isn't) but there aren't any real details about what causes it, other than "a firmaware bug". [0] https://www.servethehome.com/hpe-issues-hpd7-fix-for-ssds-that-will-fail-at-40000-hours/ https://www.servethehome.com/hpe-issues-hpd7-fix-for-ssds-th... [1] https://www.anandtech.com/show/15673/dell-hpe-updates-for-40k-hour-essd-failures https://www.anandtech.com/show/15673/dell-hpe-updates-for-40...

dredmorbius 4y ago

The problem seems to be widely experienced. The Cisco report turned up in response to a post I'd made of the HN issue on the Fediverse: https://mastodon.infra.de/@galaxis/108622795822100862 https://mastodon.infra.de/@galaxis/108622795822100862

dredmorbius 4y ago
Dang also listed a few previous submissions on the topic. None of which gained traction at the time: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32038993 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32038993

wtallis 4y ago

Enterprise SSDs are commonly made by one of a handful of dominant companies and then rebranded by server vendors, so that you can see a SanDisk or Samsung SSD sold as a Dell EMC or Cisco or HPE drive.

McNutty 4y ago

I suspect that "industry-wide bug" in this context is simply Cisco pointing out to their customer base that this isn't Cisco's fault and please don't blame Cisco.

Neil44 4y ago

If you google SSD 40000 hours you will find many box shifters affected, Dell, HP, IBM etc.