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what does this have to do with OP's post? Also, your question is far more complex and not comparable to the russo-ukraine war. For one, the geo-political situ

what does this have to do with OP's post? Also, your question is far more complex and not comparable to the russo-ukraine war. For one, the geo-political situation prior to WW2 and especially compared to today might aswell be from a completely different planet. Prior to world war 2, a intranational political union like the EU did not exist, not to mention most countries in europe weren't democracies at the time.

shmerl 4y ago
I don't see a lot of differences really in regards to the question of doing business with such regimes which equals to aiding their war.
- gambiting 4y ago
  Agreed.
- ithkuil 4y ago
  perhaps the worry is that if Europe collapses, we may discover some of the members actually align with Putin? That's the nature of democracy, all it takes is a candidate (which we usually label as "populist") to leverage the resentment of the hardship endured because of being anti-putin.
  - heavenlyblue 4y ago
    In Eastern European countries this resentment almost surely already exists through some sort of “Russia’s Phoenix resurrected from the ashes”
    - mantas 4y ago
      Coming from Eastern Europe... Here the fear is that Western Europe will end up in bed with Putin and sell us off. Here anti-Russian notion was written in genes in cruel ways for generations
      - heavenlyblue 4y ago
        See since you have Lithuanian name I know for sure a lot of Lithuanian liberal youth whose parents still habitually watch Russian television, so I am not sure what you are talking about in regards to that "anti-Russian notion in genes", that's just plainly not true.
        mantas 4y ago
        Part of older generation does live in Russian media sphere. Tiny part of younger generation too. But combined that's definitely not a big part. There're plenty of polls about views on Russian-Ukraine war. And views are pretty one sided. Another division is people who were moved here by soviet government. It's not uncommon that the old generation, born outside of Lithuania, lives in Russian media, sometimes not even speaking Lithuanian after decades of living here. Yet their (grand)children are well integrated into Lithuanian society, including anti-Russian notion. .... and then we have our own bunch of Russofiles for various reasons. Including among youth, and even what you'd call liberal youth. Some famous people now do incredible stunts to cover pre-Russian-invasion actions. While others stick to their guns.
    - ithkuil 4y ago
      I was more thinking about countries like Italy, that don't feel a direct threat from Russia; quite the contrary they feel they have everything to lose by keeping the current stance. I have a declared fascist father in law, and he sided with Putin from the very start (his opinions are generally an unimaginative mirror of what he reads in the major Italian newspaper he reads)

shmerl 4y ago

I don't see a lot of differences really in regards to the question of doing business with such regimes which equals to aiding their war.

gambiting 4y ago
Agreed.
ithkuil 4y ago
perhaps the worry is that if Europe collapses, we may discover some of the members actually align with Putin? That's the nature of democracy, all it takes is a candidate (which we usually label as "populist") to leverage the resentment of the hardship endured because of being anti-putin.
- heavenlyblue 4y ago
  In Eastern European countries this resentment almost surely already exists through some sort of “Russia’s Phoenix resurrected from the ashes”
  - mantas 4y ago
    Coming from Eastern Europe... Here the fear is that Western Europe will end up in bed with Putin and sell us off. Here anti-Russian notion was written in genes in cruel ways for generations
    - heavenlyblue 4y ago
      See since you have Lithuanian name I know for sure a lot of Lithuanian liberal youth whose parents still habitually watch Russian television, so I am not sure what you are talking about in regards to that "anti-Russian notion in genes", that's just plainly not true.
      - mantas 4y ago
        Part of older generation does live in Russian media sphere. Tiny part of younger generation too. But combined that's definitely not a big part. There're plenty of polls about views on Russian-Ukraine war. And views are pretty one sided. Another division is people who were moved here by soviet government. It's not uncommon that the old generation, born outside of Lithuania, lives in Russian media, sometimes not even speaking Lithuanian after decades of living here. Yet their (grand)children are well integrated into Lithuanian society, including anti-Russian notion. .... and then we have our own bunch of Russofiles for various reasons. Including among youth, and even what you'd call liberal youth. Some famous people now do incredible stunts to cover pre-Russian-invasion actions. While others stick to their guns.
  - ithkuil 4y ago
    I was more thinking about countries like Italy, that don't feel a direct threat from Russia; quite the contrary they feel they have everything to lose by keeping the current stance. I have a declared fascist father in law, and he sided with Putin from the very start (his opinions are generally an unimaginative mirror of what he reads in the major Italian newspaper he reads)