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This sounds like moat-building. But what does "the use of higher education credentials from diploma mills and unaccredited schools" actually amount to? Listing

This sounds like moat-building. But what does "the use of higher education credentials from diploma mills and unaccredited schools" actually amount to? Listing them on a CV?

woodruffw 4y ago
It can amount to financial fraud (or at least incompetence), shoddy engineering, adverse and inefficient selection for graduate and post-graduate studies, and so forth.
ThrowawayR2 4y ago
You know, you could've just Googled a bit to find the relevant laws. For example, for Washington state: https://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9A.60.070 https://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9A.60.070 "... (2) A person is guilty of knowingly using a false academic credential if the person knowingly uses a false academic credential or falsely claims to have a credential issued by an institution of higher education that is accredited by an accrediting association recognized as such by rule of the student achievement council: (a) In a written or oral advertisement or other promotion of a business; or (b) With the intent to: (i) Obtain employment; (ii) Obtain a license or certificate to practice a trade, profession, or occupation; (iii) Obtain a promotion, compensation or other benefit, or an increase in compensation or other benefit, in employment or in the practice of a trade, profession, or occupation; (iv) Obtain admission to an educational program in this state; or (v) Gain a position in government with authority over another person, regardless of whether the person receives compensation for the position. ... (4) Issuing a false academic credential is a class C felony. (5) Knowingly using a false academic credential is a gross misdemeanor." Seems doubtful that it gets prosecuted much though.
- bencollier49 4y ago
  I don't think this defines what a false credential is, though. It defines how one might illegally use one, or issue one, or falsely claim to have a real qualification, but I don't see a definition of a false credential. It sounds like a false credential falsely claims to be accredited (ie. if I were to issue degrees from Harvard), which is not what the OP institution is doing, so this discussion is possibly moot.

This sounds like moat-building. But what does "the use of higher education credentials from diploma mills and unaccredited schools" actually amount to? Listing them on a CV?

woodruffw 4y ago

It can amount to financial fraud (or at least incompetence), shoddy engineering, adverse and inefficient selection for graduate and post-graduate studies, and so forth.

ThrowawayR2 4y ago

You know, you could've just Googled a bit to find the relevant laws. For example, for Washington state: https://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9A.60.070 https://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9A.60.070 "... (2) A person is guilty of knowingly using a false academic credential if the person knowingly uses a false academic credential or falsely claims to have a credential issued by an institution of higher education that is accredited by an accrediting association recognized as such by rule of the student achievement council: (a) In a written or oral advertisement or other promotion of a business; or (b) With the intent to: (i) Obtain employment; (ii) Obtain a license or certificate to practice a trade, profession, or occupation; (iii) Obtain a promotion, compensation or other benefit, or an increase in compensation or other benefit, in employment or in the practice of a trade, profession, or occupation; (iv) Obtain admission to an educational program in this state; or (v) Gain a position in government with authority over another person, regardless of whether the person receives compensation for the position. ... (4) Issuing a false academic credential is a class C felony. (5) Knowingly using a false academic credential is a gross misdemeanor." Seems doubtful that it gets prosecuted much though.

bencollier49 4y ago
I don't think this defines what a false credential is, though. It defines how one might illegally use one, or issue one, or falsely claim to have a real qualification, but I don't see a definition of a false credential. It sounds like a false credential falsely claims to be accredited (ie. if I were to issue degrees from Harvard), which is not what the OP institution is doing, so this discussion is possibly moot.