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> "No one cares about accreditation anyway." "... U.S. jurisdictions where the use of higher education credentials from diploma mills and unaccredited schools

> "No one cares about accreditation anyway." "... U.S. jurisdictions where the use of higher education credentials from diploma mills and unaccredited schools is explicitly illegal or legally restricted include Illinois, Indiana, Maine, Michigan, Missouri, Nevada, New Jersey, North Dakota, Oregon, South Dakota, Texas, Virginia, and Washington. Many other states are also considering restrictions on unaccredited degree use in order to help prevent fraud. ..." -- https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diploma_mills_in_the_United_States https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Diploma_mills_in_the_United_St...

bencollier49 4y ago
This sounds like moat-building. But what does "the use of higher education credentials from diploma mills and unaccredited schools" actually amount to? Listing them on a CV?
- woodruffw 4y ago
  It can amount to financial fraud (or at least incompetence), shoddy engineering, adverse and inefficient selection for graduate and post-graduate studies, and so forth.
- ThrowawayR2 4y ago
  You know, you could've just Googled a bit to find the relevant laws. For example, for Washington state: https://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9A.60.070 https://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9A.60.070 "... (2) A person is guilty of knowingly using a false academic credential if the person knowingly uses a false academic credential or falsely claims to have a credential issued by an institution of higher education that is accredited by an accrediting association recognized as such by rule of the student achievement council: (a) In a written or oral advertisement or other promotion of a business; or (b) With the intent to: (i) Obtain employment; (ii) Obtain a license or certificate to practice a trade, profession, or occupation; (iii) Obtain a promotion, compensation or other benefit, or an increase in compensation or other benefit, in employment or in the practice of a trade, profession, or occupation; (iv) Obtain admission to an educational program in this state; or (v) Gain a position in government with authority over another person, regardless of whether the person receives compensation for the position. ... (4) Issuing a false academic credential is a class C felony. (5) Knowingly using a false academic credential is a gross misdemeanor." Seems doubtful that it gets prosecuted much though.
  - bencollier49 4y ago
    I don't think this defines what a false credential is, though. It defines how one might illegally use one, or issue one, or falsely claim to have a real qualification, but I don't see a definition of a false credential. It sounds like a false credential falsely claims to be accredited (ie. if I were to issue degrees from Harvard), which is not what the OP institution is doing, so this discussion is possibly moot.

bencollier49 4y ago

This sounds like moat-building. But what does "the use of higher education credentials from diploma mills and unaccredited schools" actually amount to? Listing them on a CV?

woodruffw 4y ago
It can amount to financial fraud (or at least incompetence), shoddy engineering, adverse and inefficient selection for graduate and post-graduate studies, and so forth.
ThrowawayR2 4y ago
You know, you could've just Googled a bit to find the relevant laws. For example, for Washington state: https://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9A.60.070 https://apps.leg.wa.gov/rcw/default.aspx?cite=9A.60.070 "... (2) A person is guilty of knowingly using a false academic credential if the person knowingly uses a false academic credential or falsely claims to have a credential issued by an institution of higher education that is accredited by an accrediting association recognized as such by rule of the student achievement council: (a) In a written or oral advertisement or other promotion of a business; or (b) With the intent to: (i) Obtain employment; (ii) Obtain a license or certificate to practice a trade, profession, or occupation; (iii) Obtain a promotion, compensation or other benefit, or an increase in compensation or other benefit, in employment or in the practice of a trade, profession, or occupation; (iv) Obtain admission to an educational program in this state; or (v) Gain a position in government with authority over another person, regardless of whether the person receives compensation for the position. ... (4) Issuing a false academic credential is a class C felony. (5) Knowingly using a false academic credential is a gross misdemeanor." Seems doubtful that it gets prosecuted much though.
- bencollier49 4y ago
  I don't think this defines what a false credential is, though. It defines how one might illegally use one, or issue one, or falsely claim to have a real qualification, but I don't see a definition of a false credential. It sounds like a false credential falsely claims to be accredited (ie. if I were to issue degrees from Harvard), which is not what the OP institution is doing, so this discussion is possibly moot.