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“There’s nothing wrong with capitalism. This is a problem of crony-capitalism / corporatism. <EOF>” That is what people will reflexively say to any analysis th
by EGreg 4y ago
“There’s nothing wrong with capitalism. This is a problem of crony-capitalism / corporatism. <EOF>”
That is what people will reflexively say to any analysis that discusses the role of the profit motive and wall street earnings in leading to these outcomes.
The fact that systematic actions like this to amass advantages at expense of the public happen with regularity at Facebook, Google, Apple, Microsoft, Exxon Mobil, General Motors and many other for-profit enterprises, means there may be some room to improve the economic paradigm in which these things are built. And in fact, we have just such a paradigm, and the products of it (Wikipedia, Linux, etc.) are of a completely different character. They don’t have an investor class at all, that needs to recoup their investment by extracting rents forever.
The alternative to for-profit venture funded companies owned by Wall St doesn’t have to be communism or socialism. It can be a gift economy such Science, Creative Commons, or Open Source Software and decentralized permissionless networks based around protocols like HTTP.
For example, Uber can be replaced with an open source, decentralized marketplace that doesn’t take 50% of all drivers’ revenue, but has a free market and ratings / reviews operated by the community.
But if a project is funded by venture CAPITALISTS, subsidized by money-losing unit economics through multiple rounds, and then dumped on the public in a Wall St IPO, and subsequently owned by pension funds and other pools of capital, then yes that is a quintessential example of Capitalism. And the result is that there is an investor class that will always tell Uber’s board to maintain centralized control and extract rents from the public, squeeze drivers, as well as try to hack the society around them (as in this article: secretly trick, get around the police, lobby state officials) whereas an open source decentralized system wouldn’t do any of that.
The dream of cryptocurrency was that the developers would sell the tokens to the public and make money on the primary sale, but after that, the network would belong to the public. Even any royalties that could accrue (such as on every transfer of the token) would be above-board and disclosed once, so everyone knows the deal. Sadly, rather than focusing on a “peer to peer cash system” as Satoshi’s whitepaper said, the entire space switched around 2013 to “store of value”, HODL and speculative investment. It’s actually a cop-out that happened because blockchains can’t scale well.
Bitcoin was the granddaddy and it solved the double-spend problem, but in a very brute-force way, by gathering all transactions in the world in one place every 10 mins to search for a double-spend. It’s actually even worse than that, because every transaction has to be gossipped to every miner, and all mined transactions have to be stored forever in an ever-growing history. The tech is a straightjacket but the vision is good. We do need smart contracts to replace privately-owned middlemen, but we need the smart contracts to run on a better DLT than Blockchain. There have been tons of innovation since 2008 but Bitcoin maximalists and Web2 maximalists both deride all of it, so progress depends on open-minded people who look past the grift of utility-less coins long enough to build something useful
- ngcazz 4y agoCryptocurrency is a huge non-sequitur here.
- HL33tibCe7 4y agoThis kind of collusion between the state and a company is antithetical to capitalism.
- elcomet 4y agoYes but without a strong state to prevent this, the incentives do push the companies to collude
- dixie_land 4y agoWith a strong state, it’ll just be easier to collude without even having to maintain an appearance.
- malermeister 4y agoIt might be on paper, but that's a "No True Scotsman" argument, just like all the socialists saying "oh the Soviet Union wasn't real socialism!". In reality, this seems to be what happens every time, empirically. So maybe this is just what real life capitalism is like?
- blowski 4y agoMost economic systems go through the same 3 step process: 1. Start out with a good idea. 2. Go through a golden period of good results, in which there is much innovation, and established dominant players are upended. 3. Revert to form, in which the newly dominant players prevent further change. The key is not looking for the perfect system at step 2, but the one which causes step 3 to break down in the quickest time possible.
- fallingknife 4y agoYou talking about Uber or the cab cartels they were competing with?