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That type of response comes from a place of privilege. Many have no choice over ISP.
by TingPing 4y ago
That type of response comes from a place of privilege. Many have no choice over ISP.
- marginalia_nu 4y agoDysfunctional markets is a legal problem, not a technical one. Concealing the consequences of market dysfunction with technological band-aids only serves to preserve the status quo.
- TingPing 4y agoThis is just a deeply unhelpful way to think. Firstly it punishes those in the worst situations. Those in countries with abusive political systems, those who have no legal representation, etc. I don't even believe the idea is right in practice "serves to preserve the status quo" is just wrong in this case. HTTPS completely breaks most terrible things ISPs can do. It completely dismantles the system.
- marginalia_nu 4y ago> Firstly it punishes those in the worst situations. Those in countries with abusive political systems, those who have no legal representation, etc. HTTPS offers virtually no defense against a state actor. > I don't even believe the idea is right in practice "serves to preserve the status quo" is just wrong in this case. HTTPS completely breaks most terrible things ISPs can do. It completely dismantles the system. HTTPS doesn't dismantle the system at all. You're still stuck with no other option for an ISP, which means you are not going to get favorable terms. And even with HTTPS, you need to look up the IP for the servers you're going to visit, and ISPs can snoop on your DNS traffic and sell information about how you, the IP (or the person), regularly looks up the IP for abortionpills.example.com (or connects to the IP associated with the server).
- TingPing 4y agoThey get an IP but an IP does not always equal a hostname.
- marginalia_nu 4y agoIt's just one data point though. The real juice comes when you have a hundred thousand traffic logs to compare, then you can start inferring similarities even from vague and incomplete data points.