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Japanese people I know are adamant that Abe had no ties or did ever voice support for the Moon sect, ever. I am now wondering if Abe had kept it secret and the

Japanese people I know are adamant that Abe had no ties or did ever voice support for the Moon sect, ever. I am now wondering if Abe had kept it secret and the shooter somehow found out.

hackerlight 4y ago
I read he gave a speech there once. Maybe the killer heard about it and, combined with whatever mental illness he has, interpreted it as something more than it was.
- boeingUH60 4y ago
  In the US, Mike Pompeo (ex Secretary of State), Mike Pence (ex Vice President), and Trump (ex-President) have also given speeches to an offshoot of the Moonies...wild. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/05/pence-pompeo-headlined-event-mounted-by-unification-church/ https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/05/pence-pompeo-he... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-moonies-speech-unifaction-church-b1918750.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politic...
toyg 4y ago
If the cult ruined his life and he took it out on the first politician he could somehow link to them, the problem is not whether such politician really had such relationship, but the fact that such idea was credible in the first place. Are cults in Japan tolerated a bit too much, leaving them free to ruin's people lives? Are politicians just sitting by, or even enabling such cults? Those should be the questions people have to ask, if the aim is to avoid a repeat. This is particularly true when you look at the fact that such cults were directly responsible for past terrorist activity in Japan.
- tartoran 4y ago
  Probably cults freedoms are tolerated for votes
- rasz 4y ago
  >Are cults in Japan tolerated a bit too much This one is still around, albeit at the fringes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aum_Shinrikyo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aum_Shinrikyo " Shoko Asahara, the leader of the Aum Shinrikyo doomsday cult, was hanged after being sentenced to death in 2004" For real cult tolerance look no further than S.Korea. Any innocent social gathering has >50% chance of being cult recruitment gathering.
  - suction 4y ago
    Also the „Happy Science“ cult which has racial segregation and Japan ruling the Earth as its ulterior motives.
rtpg 4y ago
I know loads who know about this. The guy was in a publicly published video last year, it’s not a massive secret.
- suction 4y ago
  Ah, interesting. I suspected that I got a "save face" answer from them because they always err on the side of "Japan and Japanese people can't be criticised by Western people".
fomine3 4y ago
Abe-unification relation is well written by some media so it can be easily found, but maybe not well known for who only watch TV and newspaper.
ssnistfajen 4y ago
In the very link this post is about, there's a Youtube video of Abe giving a speech for the church in 2021.

Japanese people I know are adamant that Abe had no ties or did ever voice support for the Moon sect, ever. I am now wondering if Abe had kept it secret and the shooter somehow found out.

hackerlight 4y ago

I read he gave a speech there once. Maybe the killer heard about it and, combined with whatever mental illness he has, interpreted it as something more than it was.

boeingUH60 4y ago
In the US, Mike Pompeo (ex Secretary of State), Mike Pence (ex Vice President), and Trump (ex-President) have also given speeches to an offshoot of the Moonies...wild. https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/05/pence-pompeo-headlined-event-mounted-by-unification-church/ https://www.motherjones.com/politics/2021/05/pence-pompeo-he... https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-moonies-speech-unifaction-church-b1918750.html https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politic...

toyg 4y ago

If the cult ruined his life and he took it out on the first politician he could somehow link to them, the problem is not whether such politician really had such relationship, but the fact that such idea was credible in the first place. Are cults in Japan tolerated a bit too much, leaving them free to ruin's people lives? Are politicians just sitting by, or even enabling such cults? Those should be the questions people have to ask, if the aim is to avoid a repeat. This is particularly true when you look at the fact that such cults were directly responsible for past terrorist activity in Japan.

tartoran 4y ago
Probably cults freedoms are tolerated for votes
rasz 4y ago
>Are cults in Japan tolerated a bit too much This one is still around, albeit at the fringes https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aum_Shinrikyo https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aum_Shinrikyo " Shoko Asahara, the leader of the Aum Shinrikyo doomsday cult, was hanged after being sentenced to death in 2004" For real cult tolerance look no further than S.Korea. Any innocent social gathering has >50% chance of being cult recruitment gathering.
- suction 4y ago
  Also the „Happy Science“ cult which has racial segregation and Japan ruling the Earth as its ulterior motives.

rtpg 4y ago

I know loads who know about this. The guy was in a publicly published video last year, it’s not a massive secret.

suction 4y ago
Ah, interesting. I suspected that I got a "save face" answer from them because they always err on the side of "Japan and Japanese people can't be criticised by Western people".

fomine3 4y ago

Abe-unification relation is well written by some media so it can be easily found, but maybe not well known for who only watch TV and newspaper.

ssnistfajen 4y ago

In the very link this post is about, there's a Youtube video of Abe giving a speech for the church in 2021.