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who even is? the article does not quote one of their supposed straw man politicians arguing '1.5 is still alive'. everybody knows 1.5 is dead. rather than tre

who even is? the article does not quote one of their supposed straw man politicians arguing '1.5 is still alive'. everybody knows 1.5 is dead. rather than treating that like the literal mass grave/funeral it is, people are inventing some kind of naive-false-prophet science/politician figure to 'dunk on' about it so they can feel more savvy and in-the-know. the framing is one of winning a debate, not losing millions of lives. its gross.

lelandfe 4y ago
> A 2021 survey by the science journal Nature found that a majority of world-leading climate scientists believe that we are heading towards a catastrophic 3°C of warming by the end of the century. Only 4% surveyed said they thought limiting warming to 1.5°C was likely But also 1.5c is still the talking point for politicians. The High Ambition Coalition still uses that: https://www.highambitioncoalition.org/statements/cochair-summary-april-2021-9n7c5-z7kxl-733k4-49h35 https://www.highambitioncoalition.org/statements/cochair-sum... See also the US’s climate envoy talking about “keeping 1.5C in reach” at Cop26: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/11/john-kerry-cop26-climate-summit-starting-line-rest-of-decade https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/11/john-ker... I don’t know of many (any?) American politicians who are being honest about this. Maybe there are more forthright folks abroad. I think it’s just too politically costly.
defrost 4y ago
> the article does not quote one of their supposed straw man politicians arguing '1.5 is still alive'. I'd point to the UKs Boris Johnson and his endless finger gang signing of one finger (on one hand) and five digits (on the other) at the last COP event. He is however a dead man walking today .. although still the UK's PM for now.

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who even is? the article does not quote one of their supposed straw man politicians arguing '1.5 is still alive'. everybody knows 1.5 is dead. rather than tre

by cagenut 4y ago

lelandfe 4y ago
> A 2021 survey by the science journal Nature found that a majority of world-leading climate scientists believe that we are heading towards a catastrophic 3°C of warming by the end of the century. Only 4% surveyed said they thought limiting warming to 1.5°C was likely But also 1.5c is still the talking point for politicians. The High Ambition Coalition still uses that: https://www.highambitioncoalition.org/statements/cochair-summary-april-2021-9n7c5-z7kxl-733k4-49h35 https://www.highambitioncoalition.org/statements/cochair-sum... See also the US’s climate envoy talking about “keeping 1.5C in reach” at Cop26: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/11/john-kerry-cop26-climate-summit-starting-line-rest-of-decade https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2021/oct/11/john-ker... I don’t know of many (any?) American politicians who are being honest about this. Maybe there are more forthright folks abroad. I think it’s just too politically costly.
defrost 4y ago
> the article does not quote one of their supposed straw man politicians arguing '1.5 is still alive'. I'd point to the UKs Boris Johnson and his endless finger gang signing of one finger (on one hand) and five digits (on the other) at the last COP event. He is however a dead man walking today .. although still the UK's PM for now.