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It's pretty remarkable but from what friends who are parents have told me is that as bad as school can be, remote 'learning' managed to be far worse. The depths

It's pretty remarkable but from what friends who are parents have told me is that as bad as school can be, remote 'learning' managed to be far worse. The depths of terrible learning environments has truly been plumbed.

BrianOnHN 4y ago
This is a false comparison. My SO teaches at a proper virtual school, funded by the state, where the kids outperform students in many brick and mortar schools (on standardized tests). However, these students & parents both signed up for virtual and are well prepared for what that entails. The pandemic only shows that poorly-prepared virtual learning is sub-par.
- bigDinosaur 4y ago
  Yes, you're probably right. I should clarify I'm speaking purely about what happened during covid and just aim to illustrate that badly thought out remote is worse than even badly thought out in-person.
actionablefiber 4y ago
I firmly believe remote schooling can work well in a pinch and for long periods of time so long as it's done proactively and the school can lean into it and experiment with it as a fully-fledged alternate learning framework. I think much of the trouble with remote learning in the past couple years, especially in the first world where the resources to do this right should have been available, is attributable to bad planning and political pressures. You had school systems which refused to attempt to plan for remote learning and delayed going remote until half the school was out fighting COVID and the administration had to do a rush job to switch. At which point there was neither time nor money for training, equipment, and personnel to make sure that remote learning succeeded. At which point remote learning was failing so badly that a premature return to the classroom was all but necessary, causing another wave of infections and burning out teachers with terrifying efficiency.
- iso1631 4y ago
  Kids have being doing remote learning way before covid, but you need engaged parents and a supportive community https://www.centralstation.net.au/socialising-and-schooling-in-the-outback/ https://www.centralstation.net.au/socialising-and-schooling-...
headsoup 4y ago
That's because parents were trying to enforce the strict school environment on their child at home, instead of realising kids can learn without being pinned to the desk and certainly won't get way behind in life by not doing strict schooling for a few months. Could you imagine if your manager at work decided to come to your house for remote work and micro-manage your day for you, in your own home?

BrianOnHN 4y ago

This is a false comparison. My SO teaches at a proper virtual school, funded by the state, where the kids outperform students in many brick and mortar schools (on standardized tests). However, these students & parents both signed up for virtual and are well prepared for what that entails. The pandemic only shows that poorly-prepared virtual learning is sub-par.

bigDinosaur 4y ago
Yes, you're probably right. I should clarify I'm speaking purely about what happened during covid and just aim to illustrate that badly thought out remote is worse than even badly thought out in-person.

actionablefiber 4y ago

I firmly believe remote schooling can work well in a pinch and for long periods of time so long as it's done proactively and the school can lean into it and experiment with it as a fully-fledged alternate learning framework. I think much of the trouble with remote learning in the past couple years, especially in the first world where the resources to do this right should have been available, is attributable to bad planning and political pressures. You had school systems which refused to attempt to plan for remote learning and delayed going remote until half the school was out fighting COVID and the administration had to do a rush job to switch. At which point there was neither time nor money for training, equipment, and personnel to make sure that remote learning succeeded. At which point remote learning was failing so badly that a premature return to the classroom was all but necessary, causing another wave of infections and burning out teachers with terrifying efficiency.

iso1631 4y ago
Kids have being doing remote learning way before covid, but you need engaged parents and a supportive community https://www.centralstation.net.au/socialising-and-schooling-in-the-outback/ https://www.centralstation.net.au/socialising-and-schooling-...

headsoup 4y ago

That's because parents were trying to enforce the strict school environment on their child at home, instead of realising kids can learn without being pinned to the desk and certainly won't get way behind in life by not doing strict schooling for a few months. Could you imagine if your manager at work decided to come to your house for remote work and micro-manage your day for you, in your own home?