I feel the same in general. I was naive enough trying to convince them but it turned out in most of the cases I was wasting my time: they either deliberately to

I feel the same in general. I was naive enough trying to convince them but it turned out in most of the cases I was wasting my time: they either deliberately took it wrong or simply could not comprehend it at all. In neither case there wouldn't be any point trying to discuss. So virtually I stopped reading or replying on most sites, HN is one of the few I haven't stopped yet, but I feel it won't last long too.