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We're living in an interesting time where things that aren't illegal (because "why would we need a law for that? no one has any incentive to do anything of the

We're living in an interesting time where things that aren't illegal (because "why would we need a law for that? no one has any incentive to do anything of the sort") are being done because some people now have an incentive.

88840-8855 4y ago
There are limits to rule based systems. I always believed that a common sense based system is superior. It should be clear that those things are bad and should not be done. You still do them? Deal with the punishment.
- tyleo 4y ago
  This is an interesting comment. I agree that, “there are limits to rule based systems”. I think there is much less potential for abuse though. I don’t know what the solution is. I’d love fore you to be right and judges to have a keen sense of “I know it when I see it”. Something tells me they don’t though. Power is too corrupting.
- pvaldes 4y ago
  They feed and target an army of boycotting minors, because minors can't be punished by law in the same way as an adult would be. If things got hairy will flash a "Just Kidding". Very low risks for the people moving the puppets at ten thousands Km of distance, also. But the economic damage is real and persistent.
  - 88840-8855 4y ago
    This is bad in almost all developed countries. Minors are acting bad and cannot be punished. Understandable that you dont want to put away a minor in a prison and you cannot hurt them financially either. But our systems are too slow to adapt to new modern forms of punishment. You want to punish a minor? Ban all his social media accounts for 3 months, take away the mobile phone and other electronics, ban the phone number, push them to do to social work during holidays. Yet, something something human rights... and we have those brats who are terrible. Just experienced some yesterday. They are simply hostile and feel empowered by their peers. They will grow up at some point, but until that, they must be disciplined.
- Terry_Roll 4y ago
  Does that include the dominance of global corporations, countries, and genders? From an insect perspective, the larger tractors and deeper cutting ploughs have reduced the need for pesticides on farm crops, at the expense of destroying the habitat of insects that spend some of their time in the soil.
- rTX5CMRXIfFG 4y ago
  Lol there’s no such thing as common sense especially in a large and highly diverse population such as “social media users”
Thorentis 4y ago
This is a pretty succinct description of why social media is a cancer on society.
- Nextgrid 4y ago
  *advertising Social media alone wouldn’t encourage that nor would even host the content for free unless they can make money off it (and make more than it costs to host it). Nobody in their right mind would pay actual money to watch this content though, so the only way this currently survives is advertising. Eradicate that and a lot of the harms of social media go away.
  - rTX5CMRXIfFG 4y ago
    I don’t know where you’re getting your opinion from because it’s also completely possible (and extremely likely) for a paid social media service to present harmful/false content to its users for as long as its users are enjoying it.
    - 0dayz 4y ago
      Yupp, take stepping on animals fetish or monkey cry (don't look it up, it's a rabbit hole of insane people torturing monkeys). I mean hell there's been child porn studios operating like any other business.
nibbleshifter 4y ago
Unfortunately this is likely to lead to a lot more poorly conceived legislation down the line (at least in the UK, which loves knee jerk lawmaking)
boomboomsubban 4y ago
I don't think it's that new. It reminds me of the person in the 19th century who brought every bird mentioned by Shakespeare to America, largely for the publicity, and now starlings are a massive pest throughout the country.
- mysterydip 4y ago
  Sure, there's always been the occasional outlier. The difference now is the frequency and scale.
GekkePrutser 4y ago
TikTok really specializes at exploiting this niche though. They deserve at least some of the blame.

88840-8855 4y ago

There are limits to rule based systems. I always believed that a common sense based system is superior. It should be clear that those things are bad and should not be done. You still do them? Deal with the punishment.

tyleo 4y ago
This is an interesting comment. I agree that, “there are limits to rule based systems”. I think there is much less potential for abuse though. I don’t know what the solution is. I’d love fore you to be right and judges to have a keen sense of “I know it when I see it”. Something tells me they don’t though. Power is too corrupting.
pvaldes 4y ago
They feed and target an army of boycotting minors, because minors can't be punished by law in the same way as an adult would be. If things got hairy will flash a "Just Kidding". Very low risks for the people moving the puppets at ten thousands Km of distance, also. But the economic damage is real and persistent.
- 88840-8855 4y ago
  This is bad in almost all developed countries. Minors are acting bad and cannot be punished. Understandable that you dont want to put away a minor in a prison and you cannot hurt them financially either. But our systems are too slow to adapt to new modern forms of punishment. You want to punish a minor? Ban all his social media accounts for 3 months, take away the mobile phone and other electronics, ban the phone number, push them to do to social work during holidays. Yet, something something human rights... and we have those brats who are terrible. Just experienced some yesterday. They are simply hostile and feel empowered by their peers. They will grow up at some point, but until that, they must be disciplined.
Terry_Roll 4y ago
Does that include the dominance of global corporations, countries, and genders? From an insect perspective, the larger tractors and deeper cutting ploughs have reduced the need for pesticides on farm crops, at the expense of destroying the habitat of insects that spend some of their time in the soil.
rTX5CMRXIfFG 4y ago
Lol there’s no such thing as common sense especially in a large and highly diverse population such as “social media users”

Thorentis 4y ago

This is a pretty succinct description of why social media is a cancer on society.

Nextgrid 4y ago
*advertising Social media alone wouldn’t encourage that nor would even host the content for free unless they can make money off it (and make more than it costs to host it). Nobody in their right mind would pay actual money to watch this content though, so the only way this currently survives is advertising. Eradicate that and a lot of the harms of social media go away.
- rTX5CMRXIfFG 4y ago
  I don’t know where you’re getting your opinion from because it’s also completely possible (and extremely likely) for a paid social media service to present harmful/false content to its users for as long as its users are enjoying it.
  - 0dayz 4y ago
    Yupp, take stepping on animals fetish or monkey cry (don't look it up, it's a rabbit hole of insane people torturing monkeys). I mean hell there's been child porn studios operating like any other business.

nibbleshifter 4y ago

Unfortunately this is likely to lead to a lot more poorly conceived legislation down the line (at least in the UK, which loves knee jerk lawmaking)

boomboomsubban 4y ago

I don't think it's that new. It reminds me of the person in the 19th century who brought every bird mentioned by Shakespeare to America, largely for the publicity, and now starlings are a massive pest throughout the country.

mysterydip 4y ago
Sure, there's always been the occasional outlier. The difference now is the frequency and scale.

GekkePrutser 4y ago

TikTok really specializes at exploiting this niche though. They deserve at least some of the blame.