3 ms·

The claim was that there are some secrets, not all secrets which is the claim you countered.

krisoft 4y ago
Ok. There are no secrets “you cannot publish” in the USA. Prove it otherwise. Either by citing law, or even better by citing precedent.
- trasz 4y ago
  Ever heard of Assange? (Also https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born_secret https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born_secret among others; there is a ton of those.)
  - krisoft 4y ago
    Your link does not seem to contradict what i’m saying “ The constitutionality of declaring entire categories of information preemptively classified has not been definitively tested in the courts.”
    - trasz 4y ago
      You said: >There are no secrets “you cannot publish” in the USA. As evidenced above there sure are. The “constitutionality” doesn’t matter.
- whatusername 4y ago
  Looking at the DoJ's indictment of Assange -- they stated: The indictment also charges Assange for his posting of a narrow subset of classified documents on WikiLeaks that allegedly identified the names of human sources—including local Afghans and Iraqis who were assisting U.S. forces in theater, and those of journalists, religious leaders, human rights advocates, and political dissidents living in repressive regimes. Assange thereby is alleged to have created grave and imminent risk to their lives and liberty. (Source: https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1165636/download https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1165636/downl... ) That would appear to be a specific example of secrets that cannot be published?
- orangepurple 4y ago
  "Born secret" and "born classified" are both terms which refer to a policy of information being classified from the moment of its inception, usually regardless of where it was created, and usually in reference to specific laws in the United States that are related to information that describes the operation of nuclear weapons.

Ok. There are no secrets “you cannot publish” in the USA. Prove it otherwise. Either by citing law, or even better by citing precedent.

trasz 4y ago
Ever heard of Assange? (Also https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born_secret https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Born_secret among others; there is a ton of those.)
- krisoft 4y ago
  Your link does not seem to contradict what i’m saying “ The constitutionality of declaring entire categories of information preemptively classified has not been definitively tested in the courts.”
  - trasz 4y ago
    You said: >There are no secrets “you cannot publish” in the USA. As evidenced above there sure are. The “constitutionality” doesn’t matter.
whatusername 4y ago
Looking at the DoJ's indictment of Assange -- they stated: The indictment also charges Assange for his posting of a narrow subset of classified documents on WikiLeaks that allegedly identified the names of human sources—including local Afghans and Iraqis who were assisting U.S. forces in theater, and those of journalists, religious leaders, human rights advocates, and political dissidents living in repressive regimes. Assange thereby is alleged to have created grave and imminent risk to their lives and liberty. (Source: https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1165636/download https://www.justice.gov/opa/press-release/file/1165636/downl... ) That would appear to be a specific example of secrets that cannot be published?
orangepurple 4y ago
"Born secret" and "born classified" are both terms which refer to a policy of information being classified from the moment of its inception, usually regardless of where it was created, and usually in reference to specific laws in the United States that are related to information that describes the operation of nuclear weapons.