> As to the sex argument, do you really find it persuasive? The argument is of course completely bonkers, but this is the thinking behind it — and I grew up in

> As to the sex argument, do you really find it persuasive? The argument is of course completely bonkers, but this is the thinking behind it — and I grew up in a deeply catholic area: You just need to talk to those people and ask them "Why" a few times and you will end up there. The church seeing itself as a torch of morality in questions like: - when do people have sex? - what do women wear? This is nothing new and not limited to catholics. If they control your private life they control your life. IMO church should limit itself to questions of spirituality and be kept out of the state, law and private lives of the rest of us at all cost.