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Isn’t it controversial whether or not he did have a connection? There is a value of free speech in Japan but it’s not exactly like America’s, and I think the Ja

by SllX 4y ago

Isn’t it controversial whether or not he did have a connection? There is a value of free speech in Japan but it’s not exactly like America’s, and I think the Japanese media would mostly avoid stirring the pot immediately prior to an election, and especially for a claim that may be unfounded. I won’t argue whether their approach is the right one or not and this is just my opinion, but that seems like that would be why the major papers wouldn’t want to cover this angle to me.

grapeskin 4y ago
Controversial in the sense that he’s on video as a presenter in one of their events. It’s as controversial as the My Pillow guy having a connection to a political party. We don’t know whether he literally believes in what he’s saying, but we do know he’s being paid to speak for them. But whether this is the cult he was killed for is yet to be confirmed. He also had heavy involvement with Soka Gakkai through his alignment with the Komeito party. They also drain people of their cash.
scaramanga 4y ago
Strange. I don't see how it could be more controversial than his well known links to Nippon Kaigi. I mean, the cult connection is only important for the fact that someone killed him for it. And I am going to guess that it tells you something about the deranged mind of the killer, and probably not much interesting about Abe. Edit: I mean, come on, "newsflash: prominent politician involved in dubious business or accounting practices", you could probably have safely assumed it :)
- suction 4y ago
  It could be controversial because it's a Korean sect and Abe was a nationalist hardliner whose image was that he would make Japan "proud" again by refreezing relations with China and Korea. So if he had connections to a Korean sect, and knowing what sects do, the next logical step would be to assume that he was controlled by or at least open to Korean interests, which is the opposite of what people elected him for, and would be a major, major scandal for him and his party.
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  - scaramanga 4y ago
    Haha, yes, and that would be pretty deranged given that the Korean ultra-right/fascist movement is very supportive of Japanese fascism, no matter how loudly it denies, downplays, or asks to be thanked for atrocities committed against Koreans. And that includes the vast majority of nutty religious sects. Edit: or to translate, the scandal would be "concern that fascist politician, might not be fascist enough" with an emphasis on "might" since it would be pure speculation
    - suction 4y ago
      Very rare to meet someone who has a realistic view on modern Japan and calls these people what they really are. Nice to meet you! Have you by any chance ever heard of Ryōichi Sasakawa? The man who created the „Nippon Foundation“ which runs a lot of „cultural exchange“ Institutes like Language schools etc. in Europe and maybe elsewhere. His Wikipedia says he was a self-declared fascist. Can’t make it up.
peoplefromibiza 4y ago
> Isn’t it controversial whether or not he did have a connection? Controversial like linking the Kashoggi's death to the Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman[1], but then participating to the G20 summit in Riyadh or selling them billions worth of weapons (including combat aircrafts), like nothing happened? [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56213528 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56213528
- scaramanga 4y ago
  They mean controversial in the sense of totally nonsensical distraction in which the stakes are basically zero. Not controversial as in, "of any real consequence"

by SllX 4y ago

grapeskin 4y ago

Controversial in the sense that he’s on video as a presenter in one of their events. It’s as controversial as the My Pillow guy having a connection to a political party. We don’t know whether he literally believes in what he’s saying, but we do know he’s being paid to speak for them. But whether this is the cult he was killed for is yet to be confirmed. He also had heavy involvement with Soka Gakkai through his alignment with the Komeito party. They also drain people of their cash.

scaramanga 4y ago

Strange. I don't see how it could be more controversial than his well known links to Nippon Kaigi. I mean, the cult connection is only important for the fact that someone killed him for it. And I am going to guess that it tells you something about the deranged mind of the killer, and probably not much interesting about Abe. Edit: I mean, come on, "newsflash: prominent politician involved in dubious business or accounting practices", you could probably have safely assumed it :)

suction 4y ago
It could be controversial because it's a Korean sect and Abe was a nationalist hardliner whose image was that he would make Japan "proud" again by refreezing relations with China and Korea. So if he had connections to a Korean sect, and knowing what sects do, the next logical step would be to assume that he was controlled by or at least open to Korean interests, which is the opposite of what people elected him for, and would be a major, major scandal for him and his party.
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- scaramanga 4y ago
  Haha, yes, and that would be pretty deranged given that the Korean ultra-right/fascist movement is very supportive of Japanese fascism, no matter how loudly it denies, downplays, or asks to be thanked for atrocities committed against Koreans. And that includes the vast majority of nutty religious sects. Edit: or to translate, the scandal would be "concern that fascist politician, might not be fascist enough" with an emphasis on "might" since it would be pure speculation
  - suction 4y ago
    Very rare to meet someone who has a realistic view on modern Japan and calls these people what they really are. Nice to meet you! Have you by any chance ever heard of Ryōichi Sasakawa? The man who created the „Nippon Foundation“ which runs a lot of „cultural exchange“ Institutes like Language schools etc. in Europe and maybe elsewhere. His Wikipedia says he was a self-declared fascist. Can’t make it up.

peoplefromibiza 4y ago

> Isn’t it controversial whether or not he did have a connection? Controversial like linking the Kashoggi's death to the Saudi Crown Prince Mohammed bin Salman[1], but then participating to the G20 summit in Riyadh or selling them billions worth of weapons (including combat aircrafts), like nothing happened? [1] https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56213528 https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-56213528

scaramanga 4y ago
They mean controversial in the sense of totally nonsensical distraction in which the stakes are basically zero. Not controversial as in, "of any real consequence"