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At Google, Sr. SWE makes about $155K if female, about $180K if male. Base salary. Bonuses and refresher grants are also skewed accordingly. These are 2011 nu

At Google, Sr. SWE makes about $155K if female, about $180K if male. Base salary. Bonuses and refresher grants are also skewed accordingly. These are 2011 numbers, personally researched.

savrajsingh 15y ago
I'm surprised that gender-based pay differences aren't addressed at Google?
- rachelbythebay 15y ago
  They can't even buy the right numbers of T-Shirts (hint: unisex isn't. One word: breasts), so why would they get the big stuff right? Seriously, ask any woman who's still left in SRE about the Mission Control jackets in 2008-9. There was an impressive post-mortem written about it earlier this year right before I left.
lsc 15y ago
From what I've seen, as an outsider with a lot of friends that work at and/or have interviewed at Google, they seem to have some serious issues with sexisim, issues that go beyond a pay gap. They are trying, but man, they are not doing so well, and they are losing out on talent because of it.
- rachelbythebay 15y ago
  So check this out. I finally have a data point to use to prove this. I've been out of there about six months. One of my friends recently transitioned male-to-female. This is a unique opportunity to find out, right? She is now being passed up by people visiting her team's cube to ask about things regarding the service. Their default response is to go ask the guys in the cube instead. "Welcome to my world", I said.
  - lsc 15y ago
    I'd expect discrimination against transexuals to be much stronger than anything else, so I'm not sure that proves anything about how women in general are treated. One of the things I notice is that the satisfaction levels of men and women I know working at google, even normalizing for skill level, is vastly different. You don't sound particularly happy; why are you still there? my impression is that there are other places with cultures that are better at least in that regard.
    - rachelbythebay 15y ago
      I left back in May. Now I'm in a spot where the culture is entirely my own creation: working for myself. If it works, then I win.
    - z303 15y ago
      My experience at work but not at Google, has been your standard sexism really accounts for most of discrimination, which I've put down to being seem as not a man. Yes you get get some extra problems being trans but way less than I expected pre transition
Bikepump 15y ago
This must be partly a team-specific culture issue, because my observations are different. In my area of the company there are quite a few women engineers who are highly regarded, extremely influential, and well-compensated. The gender ratio is still poor like most places in the industry, but I haven't seen any evidence of women doing worse in career advancement.

At Google, Sr. SWE makes about $155K if female, about $180K if male. Base salary. Bonuses and refresher grants are also skewed accordingly. These are 2011 numbers, personally researched.

savrajsingh 15y ago

I'm surprised that gender-based pay differences aren't addressed at Google?

rachelbythebay 15y ago
They can't even buy the right numbers of T-Shirts (hint: unisex isn't. One word: breasts), so why would they get the big stuff right? Seriously, ask any woman who's still left in SRE about the Mission Control jackets in 2008-9. There was an impressive post-mortem written about it earlier this year right before I left.

lsc 15y ago

From what I've seen, as an outsider with a lot of friends that work at and/or have interviewed at Google, they seem to have some serious issues with sexisim, issues that go beyond a pay gap. They are trying, but man, they are not doing so well, and they are losing out on talent because of it.

rachelbythebay 15y ago
So check this out. I finally have a data point to use to prove this. I've been out of there about six months. One of my friends recently transitioned male-to-female. This is a unique opportunity to find out, right? She is now being passed up by people visiting her team's cube to ask about things regarding the service. Their default response is to go ask the guys in the cube instead. "Welcome to my world", I said.
- lsc 15y ago
  I'd expect discrimination against transexuals to be much stronger than anything else, so I'm not sure that proves anything about how women in general are treated. One of the things I notice is that the satisfaction levels of men and women I know working at google, even normalizing for skill level, is vastly different. You don't sound particularly happy; why are you still there? my impression is that there are other places with cultures that are better at least in that regard.
  - rachelbythebay 15y ago
    I left back in May. Now I'm in a spot where the culture is entirely my own creation: working for myself. If it works, then I win.
  - z303 15y ago
    My experience at work but not at Google, has been your standard sexism really accounts for most of discrimination, which I've put down to being seem as not a man. Yes you get get some extra problems being trans but way less than I expected pre transition

Bikepump 15y ago

This must be partly a team-specific culture issue, because my observations are different. In my area of the company there are quite a few women engineers who are highly regarded, extremely influential, and well-compensated. The gender ratio is still poor like most places in the industry, but I haven't seen any evidence of women doing worse in career advancement.