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This is creepy, I just started writing a very similar app, end then I saw this appear on HN. Though mine is focused more on getting faster at sight reading shee

by TT-392 4y ago

This is creepy, I just started writing a very similar app, end then I saw this appear on HN. Though mine is focused more on getting faster at sight reading sheet music, and idk if I'll ever actually release it to the public.

turtlebits 4y ago
What is the shortcut for getter faster at sight reading other than just trying to sight read new music?
- NonNefarious 4y ago
  One thing I've been looking for is instructional software that shows the staff with notes on it and illuminates the notes you're ACTUALLY playing instead of just the ones you're supposed to be playing. I don't know why this seems to be rare; isn't it the obvious thing to do?
  - jacquesm 4y ago
    Yes, this is what I do with pianojacq.com, there is a cursor for each of your fingers.
    - NonNefarious 4y ago
      Thanks. But it doesn't work with Safari, and I really don't want a Web-based thing anyway. I sympathize with your complaint about Firefox, though. But check this out: https://blog.karimratib.me/2022/04/23/firefox-webmidi.html https://blog.karimratib.me/2022/04/23/firefox-webmidi.html Ugh, now that I've skimmed that, it looks like it's still a major pain in the ass. With Firefox fading fast, you'd think they'd be a little smarter about enabling features that make it competitive. Aaand now that I've tried your page and another WebMIDI test page mentioned in a Firefox issue with Firefox 101, it still isn't working. So I don't know where that article is getting all that.
- TT-392 4y ago
  Idk if it is actually gonna work, I'll only know that after I try it. But right now, I notice that one of my biggest bottlenecks in reading music, is that, whenever there is a note that is quite a bit away from the clef, or other notes I played before, it takes me some time to recognize what note it is. Right now I am planning to make an app that shows me notes, I'll have to press that key as quickly as possible, and then the next note pops up. I then plan to have a bit of an anki type thing going on, where, if you get a note or chord right, and within a short amount of time, it takes longer for that same note or chord to show up again. I am not expecting this to be a silver bullet for sightreading. There is still gonna have to be a lot of actual music reading involved, but it is the goal for this to eliminate a bottleneck and give me a bit of a head start. I just want to do more playing and less searching for now.
  - bambax 4y ago
    I'm making a webapp to learn sight reading (only sight reading, not playing the keyboard or any other instrument for that matter): https://babeloop.com https://babeloop.com It works well on mobile and so you can use it anywhere. I'm just getting started. Interested in any feedback!
jacquesm 4y ago
If you can spare the time have a look at pianojacq.com, I'd love to hear your critique of it.
- karpovv-boris 4y ago
  It's fine. But lucks simple expected features. Few examples, sheets scrolling and delay after pressing play button (also handler for pressing wrong key seems not working). Anyway, good job.
  - jacquesm 4y ago
    The delay after pressing play button is baked in: after you play the first note the timer starts, not before. Not sure what yo mean by 'handler for pressing wrong key seems not working'? It turns the note red and logs a wrong note in the counters, did that not work for you?
remarkEon 4y ago
If you do release it please post it here, because I’ve been trying to get back into playing piano after more than a decade of not. Reading the music is a skill that has definitely atrophied for me. I’m sure there’s many others here beyond me who would love to see what you’ve made!
- TT-392 4y ago
  I am in the exact same situation (getting back into playing piano after more than a decade of not doing it). But rn, it is just a very rough proof of concept I am making in pygame, I might make something more proper with actual decent code quality if it actually works, but I thought the same about an app I made to limit keyboard usage on pc (was having some hand health problems), which worked pretty well, but I never ended up making and releasing a better version of it. But maybe
  - remarkEon 4y ago
    I wish you luck! I also play the saxophone but … the problem with that one is I live in an apartment building with thin walls and can’t, exactly, bang away like I can on a keyboard with headphones. In either case the music reading is useful. My mother, a piano teacher herself, would of course just tell me to do more scales but we can make this better with technology now can’t we.
- bambax 4y ago
  I've posted this elsewhere in this thread, but I'm making a webapp focused on just sight reading: https://www.babeloop.com https://www.babeloop.com It works well on mobile so you can take it wherever. I made it for my kids who were struggling a little with non-treble clefs, and they passed their exams this June! Interested in any feedback.

by TT-392 4y ago

turtlebits 4y ago

What is the shortcut for getter faster at sight reading other than just trying to sight read new music?

NonNefarious 4y ago
One thing I've been looking for is instructional software that shows the staff with notes on it and illuminates the notes you're ACTUALLY playing instead of just the ones you're supposed to be playing. I don't know why this seems to be rare; isn't it the obvious thing to do?
- jacquesm 4y ago
  Yes, this is what I do with pianojacq.com, there is a cursor for each of your fingers.
  - NonNefarious 4y ago
    Thanks. But it doesn't work with Safari, and I really don't want a Web-based thing anyway. I sympathize with your complaint about Firefox, though. But check this out: https://blog.karimratib.me/2022/04/23/firefox-webmidi.html https://blog.karimratib.me/2022/04/23/firefox-webmidi.html Ugh, now that I've skimmed that, it looks like it's still a major pain in the ass. With Firefox fading fast, you'd think they'd be a little smarter about enabling features that make it competitive. Aaand now that I've tried your page and another WebMIDI test page mentioned in a Firefox issue with Firefox 101, it still isn't working. So I don't know where that article is getting all that.
TT-392 4y ago
Idk if it is actually gonna work, I'll only know that after I try it. But right now, I notice that one of my biggest bottlenecks in reading music, is that, whenever there is a note that is quite a bit away from the clef, or other notes I played before, it takes me some time to recognize what note it is. Right now I am planning to make an app that shows me notes, I'll have to press that key as quickly as possible, and then the next note pops up. I then plan to have a bit of an anki type thing going on, where, if you get a note or chord right, and within a short amount of time, it takes longer for that same note or chord to show up again. I am not expecting this to be a silver bullet for sightreading. There is still gonna have to be a lot of actual music reading involved, but it is the goal for this to eliminate a bottleneck and give me a bit of a head start. I just want to do more playing and less searching for now.
- bambax 4y ago
  I'm making a webapp to learn sight reading (only sight reading, not playing the keyboard or any other instrument for that matter): https://babeloop.com https://babeloop.com It works well on mobile and so you can use it anywhere. I'm just getting started. Interested in any feedback!

jacquesm 4y ago

If you can spare the time have a look at pianojacq.com, I'd love to hear your critique of it.

karpovv-boris 4y ago
It's fine. But lucks simple expected features. Few examples, sheets scrolling and delay after pressing play button (also handler for pressing wrong key seems not working). Anyway, good job.
- jacquesm 4y ago
  The delay after pressing play button is baked in: after you play the first note the timer starts, not before. Not sure what yo mean by 'handler for pressing wrong key seems not working'? It turns the note red and logs a wrong note in the counters, did that not work for you?

remarkEon 4y ago

If you do release it please post it here, because I’ve been trying to get back into playing piano after more than a decade of not. Reading the music is a skill that has definitely atrophied for me. I’m sure there’s many others here beyond me who would love to see what you’ve made!

TT-392 4y ago
I am in the exact same situation (getting back into playing piano after more than a decade of not doing it). But rn, it is just a very rough proof of concept I am making in pygame, I might make something more proper with actual decent code quality if it actually works, but I thought the same about an app I made to limit keyboard usage on pc (was having some hand health problems), which worked pretty well, but I never ended up making and releasing a better version of it. But maybe
- remarkEon 4y ago
  I wish you luck! I also play the saxophone but … the problem with that one is I live in an apartment building with thin walls and can’t, exactly, bang away like I can on a keyboard with headphones. In either case the music reading is useful. My mother, a piano teacher herself, would of course just tell me to do more scales but we can make this better with technology now can’t we.
bambax 4y ago
I've posted this elsewhere in this thread, but I'm making a webapp focused on just sight reading: https://www.babeloop.com https://www.babeloop.com It works well on mobile so you can take it wherever. I made it for my kids who were struggling a little with non-treble clefs, and they passed their exams this June! Interested in any feedback.