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If this court doesn't have real power against clever C-suite types, maybe it's better that we find that out. In terms of compensation and personal money managem

If this court doesn't have real power against clever C-suite types, maybe it's better that we find that out. In terms of compensation and personal money management, Musk isn't doing anything that other wealthy execs haven't done. (For example, Steve Jobs famously took a $1.00 per year salary for a long time.) Either there's an enforcement mechanism that works or there isn't.

sircastor 4y ago
Steve Jobs also famously illegally parked in disabled parking spots and paid the fine because he didn’t care. And he famously leased a new car every 6 months because he didn’t want to put license plates on his car. And tangential to that kind of behavior, Apple recently was paying a weekly 5 million Euro fine in the Netherlands rather than comply with an order from regulators.
- Red_Leaves_Flyy 4y ago
  Jail. The consequence needed here is jail. Put these clowns in jail with junkies and wife beaters and gang bangers. While we’re at it, treat them the same as their local pd treats the most vulnerable in their community. They deserve no better than the most vulnerable and marginalized.
  - google234123 4y ago
    Jail for parking multiple times in disabled places or for buying a car every 6 months? Hard no from me. Both of those things are not the same as beating people.
    - z3phyr 4y ago
      Routinely breaking the law and then paying fine? Jail is a good way to put routine offenders away from the civil society
      - google234123 4y ago
        Many people routinely jay walk and speed and we've decided as a society that they shouldn't go to jail.
    - sircastor 4y ago
      I think its clear that there is a set of people well are willing to violate certain laws because the consequences of such are trivial. That scales up with wealth because most misdemeanors result in a fixed monetary fine - which is less impactful for someone with wealth. When the consequences of a law violation are trivial, it’s no longer serving as a deterrent. So I think we need to find a way to deter everyone, kind of on a sliding scale or something? Likewise, there needs to be real consequences for corporations which take advantage of paying fines as a cost of doing business. One violation can be a mistake, but it sure as heck better give you a solid reason to never do it again.
      - Red_Leaves_Flyy 4y ago
        Strict liability for executives would be a good start. Corporate death penalty is also a good thing.
    - Red_Leaves_Flyy 4y ago
      If he Wants the space that bad he should buy it. The city should make the fine proportional to the sum of wealth and income over 100,000,000 to deter shenanigans. Repeat offenses should be points on license. DMV should adjust their policies to prevent this for the rich only abuse through fines that reflect the above metric. Try thinking through a problem and not just jerking your knee.

sircastor 4y ago

Steve Jobs also famously illegally parked in disabled parking spots and paid the fine because he didn’t care. And he famously leased a new car every 6 months because he didn’t want to put license plates on his car. And tangential to that kind of behavior, Apple recently was paying a weekly 5 million Euro fine in the Netherlands rather than comply with an order from regulators.

Red_Leaves_Flyy 4y ago
Jail. The consequence needed here is jail. Put these clowns in jail with junkies and wife beaters and gang bangers. While we’re at it, treat them the same as their local pd treats the most vulnerable in their community. They deserve no better than the most vulnerable and marginalized.
- google234123 4y ago
  Jail for parking multiple times in disabled places or for buying a car every 6 months? Hard no from me. Both of those things are not the same as beating people.
  - z3phyr 4y ago
    Routinely breaking the law and then paying fine? Jail is a good way to put routine offenders away from the civil society
    - google234123 4y ago
      Many people routinely jay walk and speed and we've decided as a society that they shouldn't go to jail.
  - sircastor 4y ago
    I think its clear that there is a set of people well are willing to violate certain laws because the consequences of such are trivial. That scales up with wealth because most misdemeanors result in a fixed monetary fine - which is less impactful for someone with wealth. When the consequences of a law violation are trivial, it’s no longer serving as a deterrent. So I think we need to find a way to deter everyone, kind of on a sliding scale or something? Likewise, there needs to be real consequences for corporations which take advantage of paying fines as a cost of doing business. One violation can be a mistake, but it sure as heck better give you a solid reason to never do it again.
    - Red_Leaves_Flyy 4y ago
      Strict liability for executives would be a good start. Corporate death penalty is also a good thing.
  - Red_Leaves_Flyy 4y ago
    If he Wants the space that bad he should buy it. The city should make the fine proportional to the sum of wealth and income over 100,000,000 to deter shenanigans. Repeat offenses should be points on license. DMV should adjust their policies to prevent this for the rich only abuse through fines that reflect the above metric. Try thinking through a problem and not just jerking your knee.