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Smoking weed makes you lose your security clearance, Musk did it on camera and still has his because of "reasons". That is one example of the rules that apply

Smoking weed makes you lose your security clearance, Musk did it on camera and still has his because of "reasons". That is one example of the rules that apply to most others not applying to him.

towaway15463 4y ago
Probably also an example of a rule that should be retired. Either that or they should remove clearance if you enjoy whisky.
- leetcrew 4y ago
  you're missing the point of the rule. the issue with smoking weed isn't really about having impaired judgement, it's that weed is still illegal at the federal level. there are all kinds of low-level crimes that can put your clearance at risk. which kinda makes sense... they want the kind of person who strictly follows the rules for cleared positions.
- rurp 4y ago
  I agree it's a dumb rule, but that seems orthogonal to whether Musk should have to follow an established rule. Repealing the rule would be best, but while it's in place equal enforcement is much better than enforcment for everyone except petty billionaires.
  - cdash 4y ago
    Equal enforcement just is never the way the world works, exceptions are made when its important enough.
HWR_14 4y ago
> still has his [security clearance] because of "reasons". Does he? I don't remember any resolution to that, but I thought they "temporarily" suspended it pending an investigation and then never completed the investigation.
- serf 4y ago
  > ...I thought they "temporarily" suspended it pending an investigation and then never completed the investigation. that's the theme of this entire thread : rich person has a slap on the wrist announced publicly but then the punishment is never successfully fulfilled. MS antitrust style.
  - HWR_14 4y ago
    I'm saying the opposite. I thought they suspended his clearance pending an investigation and then the investigation never ended. Just like if you're in jail pending your trial and the trial date keeps getting pushed back. Sure, you haven't been found guilty, but you're stuck in jail so does that matter? I might be wrong that they suspended his clearance or that the investigation wasn't done, but that would be a different point tag. What you're making.
bell-cot 4y ago
It ain't just Elan. There's a lot of non-enforcement of federal law, rules, & reg's involving marijuana. And doing it publicly...that pretty well nerfs the old "give us the secrets, or we'll reveal the fact that you smoked week" spy gambit.

Smoking weed makes you lose your security clearance, Musk did it on camera and still has his because of "reasons". That is one example of the rules that apply to most others not applying to him.

towaway15463 4y ago

Probably also an example of a rule that should be retired. Either that or they should remove clearance if you enjoy whisky.

leetcrew 4y ago
you're missing the point of the rule. the issue with smoking weed isn't really about having impaired judgement, it's that weed is still illegal at the federal level. there are all kinds of low-level crimes that can put your clearance at risk. which kinda makes sense... they want the kind of person who strictly follows the rules for cleared positions.
rurp 4y ago
I agree it's a dumb rule, but that seems orthogonal to whether Musk should have to follow an established rule. Repealing the rule would be best, but while it's in place equal enforcement is much better than enforcment for everyone except petty billionaires.
- cdash 4y ago
  Equal enforcement just is never the way the world works, exceptions are made when its important enough.

HWR_14 4y ago

> still has his [security clearance] because of "reasons". Does he? I don't remember any resolution to that, but I thought they "temporarily" suspended it pending an investigation and then never completed the investigation.

serf 4y ago
> ...I thought they "temporarily" suspended it pending an investigation and then never completed the investigation. that's the theme of this entire thread : rich person has a slap on the wrist announced publicly but then the punishment is never successfully fulfilled. MS antitrust style.
- HWR_14 4y ago
  I'm saying the opposite. I thought they suspended his clearance pending an investigation and then the investigation never ended. Just like if you're in jail pending your trial and the trial date keeps getting pushed back. Sure, you haven't been found guilty, but you're stuck in jail so does that matter? I might be wrong that they suspended his clearance or that the investigation wasn't done, but that would be a different point tag. What you're making.

bell-cot 4y ago

It ain't just Elan. There's a lot of non-enforcement of federal law, rules, & reg's involving marijuana. And doing it publicly...that pretty well nerfs the old "give us the secrets, or we'll reveal the fact that you smoked week" spy gambit.