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Sounds like you’ve got a bone to pick. Upward mobility in Canada is actually better than the US. Sources: https://www.brookings.edu/blog/social-mobility-memos/
by mthoms 4y ago
Sounds like you’ve got a bone to pick. Upward mobility in Canada is actually better than the US. Sources:
https://www.brookings.edu/blog/social-mobility-memos/2014/07/01/has-the-american-dream-moved-to-canada/ https://www.brookings.edu/blog/social-mobility-memos/2014/07...
https://stonecenter.gc.cuny.edu/social-mobility-is-twice-as-great-in-canada-as-in-the-united-states/ https://stonecenter.gc.cuny.edu/social-mobility-is-twice-as-...
https://www.oecd.org/social/broken-elevator-how-to-promote-social-mobility-9789264301085-en.htm https://www.oecd.org/social/broken-elevator-how-to-promote-s...
Quote from above:
> In comparison with traditional peer countries such as the United States or Great Britain, Canada displays a far less rigid class structure. The odds of moving from poverty to the middle class during an individual’s lifetime are twice as good for a Canadian as they are for an American. The fact that Canadians enjoy Scandinavian levels of equity without having to rely on Scandinavian levels of taxation or social conformity is further testament to the importance of Canada’s education, health care and welfare systems, as well as the country’s commitment to welcoming newcomers
Your healthcare comment is also provable false. Sources:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/08/05/global-health-rankings/ https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2021/08/05/global-healt...
https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/fund-reports/2021/aug/mirror-mirror-2021-reflecting-poorly https://www.commonwealthfund.org/publications/fund-reports/2...
Quote from above:
> Key Findings: The top-performing countries overall are Norway, the Netherlands, and Australia. The United States ranks last overall, despite spending far more of its gross domestic product on health care. The U.S. ranks last on access to care, administrative efficiency, equity, and health care outcomes, but second on measures of care process
Your comment:
>[Canada has] no bright hope for the future.
Seriously, what’s your agenda? Why are you spreading obvious lies and toxic nonsense? Sounds like you had a bad experience here and are keen to blame anything but yourself.
Don’t get me wrong, there’s plenty to criticize about Canada but you come across as extremely disingenuous.
I wouldn’t disagree with the idea that opportunities (and even healthcare) are better for the highest earners (most HN users) but the evidence just doesn’t support your claims as general truths. It’s just not true.
- ilrwbwrkhv 4y agoStudies are false. I have stayed there and go back their frequently. I'm talking about ground reality.
- mthoms 4y ago“Studies are false.” has got to be the absolute most low effort, I’m-not-even-going-to-try response in HN history. “[I] go back their frequently” is another absolute classic. I’ve had more rigorous and intellectual debates with my 9 year old (and he goes to Canadian elementary school). Thanks for the laugh.
- the_only_law 4y agoUnfortunately it's been an increasing issue.