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I’m not sure it’s legal to have standing passengers in high-speed trains. That’s why you have to buy your ticket before getting into the train, and showing the

I’m not sure it’s legal to have standing passengers in high-speed trains. That’s why you have to buy your ticket before getting into the train, and showing the ticket to railway company personnel if requested. You have an assigned seat there. In the short-distance trains you can get into the train only by passing a card through a rfid reader. Maybe you should compare this trains to UK ones. Thus, Spain has less population than the UK, is less centralized than UK (where almost everything is in London) and Spain is much more mountainous. We can’t really compare these two countries.

blibble 4y ago
> I’m not sure it’s legal to have standing passengers in high-speed trains. why wouldn't it be?
- elnatro 4y ago
  Security concerns. I’m case of an accident you can sit and maybe survive. Edit: keep in mind that the Madrid-Barcelona high speed railway line reaches almost 250kph. That’s more than the double maximum speed of a car in Spain.
  - blibble 4y ago
    why does the speed of a train affect its security?
  - Symbiote 4y ago
    Standing is allowed on Japanese Shinkansen trains or German ICE trains.
    - sofixa 4y ago
      But isn't on TGVs, AVE and Frecciarossa trains, so more networks disallow it than allow it.
    - elnatro 4y ago
      It’s not the same to travel standing up (i.e. not having an assigned seat) than to be able to stand up (i.e. have an assigned seat).
      - lutoma 4y ago
        But you don't have assigned seats on German high-speed trains. It certainly happens (although rarely) that trains are so full that some people need to stand
        elnatro 4y ago
        You can buy a ticket for a non-assigned seat but not for long routes like the one that goes to Paris. I’d say that having to buy a ticket with an assigned seat in high-speed trains in Spain has been always been that way. However, short-route trains (Cercanías) don’t have assigned seat, but they are not high-speed trains.
        Symbiote 4y ago
        The point is that it's not due to safety or security that Spain and France require a seat reservation. It will be to keep the quality of the service high, reduce boarding times, or something like that.
        fomine3 4y ago
        fyi it's possible to buy Tokyo to Hakata (over 1000km, takes 5hr, max 300km/h) ticket without reserved sheet. (Though eventually free sheet will be available at the middle stations.)

blibble 4y ago

> I’m not sure it’s legal to have standing passengers in high-speed trains. why wouldn't it be?

elnatro 4y ago
Security concerns. I’m case of an accident you can sit and maybe survive. Edit: keep in mind that the Madrid-Barcelona high speed railway line reaches almost 250kph. That’s more than the double maximum speed of a car in Spain.
- blibble 4y ago
  why does the speed of a train affect its security?
- Symbiote 4y ago
  Standing is allowed on Japanese Shinkansen trains or German ICE trains.
  - sofixa 4y ago
    But isn't on TGVs, AVE and Frecciarossa trains, so more networks disallow it than allow it.
  - elnatro 4y ago
    It’s not the same to travel standing up (i.e. not having an assigned seat) than to be able to stand up (i.e. have an assigned seat).
    - lutoma 4y ago
      But you don't have assigned seats on German high-speed trains. It certainly happens (although rarely) that trains are so full that some people need to stand
      - elnatro 4y ago
        You can buy a ticket for a non-assigned seat but not for long routes like the one that goes to Paris. I’d say that having to buy a ticket with an assigned seat in high-speed trains in Spain has been always been that way. However, short-route trains (Cercanías) don’t have assigned seat, but they are not high-speed trains.
        Symbiote 4y ago
        The point is that it's not due to safety or security that Spain and France require a seat reservation. It will be to keep the quality of the service high, reduce boarding times, or something like that.
        fomine3 4y ago
        fyi it's possible to buy Tokyo to Hakata (over 1000km, takes 5hr, max 300km/h) ticket without reserved sheet. (Though eventually free sheet will be available at the middle stations.)