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My cervical vertebrae are cowering in fear. I'd rather twist left to right and put the burden on muscles, than over-articulate my neck.

by sbf501 4y ago

arghwhat 4y ago
You cervical vertebrae are likely covering in fear due to significant underutilization.
- sbf501 4y ago
  I give lots of head. I should be OK. Happy now, doctor?
iblaine 4y ago
In my experience, 27" monitors on top of each other will hurt your neck and/or eyes, and side by side is more comfortable.
- Auracle 4y ago
  I have the exact opposite experience. I run a 34” ultra wide on top of a 27” 16x9 monitor. The top one is angled down just a bit and there bottom one is angled up a bit. I just need to move by eyes to see them well. With side by side monitors I’m either straining my eyes or moving my neck.
willio58 4y ago
I’ve been using a vertical monitor recently and I have to say I haven’t noticed any pain. I don’t tend to look up and down with my head, I simply move my eyes up and down
- Schiendelman 4y ago
  Oh you won’t notice the pain. You’ll notice in 20 years.
  - bartvk 4y ago
    Can you expand on this ominous prediction? What are your experiences?
    - sbf501 4y ago
      I used to be able to ride a bicycle for hours on end in my 20's and 30's. Now I can't look up when bent over in that position, I need a rise in the handlebars to get me almost vertical. I didn't hurt myself. I didn't get in an accident. It is just a fundamentally unnatural position and the discs just started to deteriorate from years of holding that position. My bikes were sized and fit properly, and I was doing everything right and everything felt OK for literally decades until one day it wasn't OK.
      - arghwhat 4y ago
        Intense bike positions require you to statically position the neck at almost 90 degrees to look forward, and keeping the neck maxed out like that is probably not great in the long run. The articulation to look up/down is maybe +/- 15 degrees, and being dynamic it should be a positive movement that strengthens your neck. That you have reduced neck flexibility decades later could easily just be age…
        sbf501 4y ago
        > Intense bike positions require you to statically position the neck at almost 90 degrees to look forward Cyclists learn that the proper position is to hold the head at roughly the same angle of the spine and to peer upwards at an angle. So you are basically looking UP, but since the top 2/3rds of the spine is tilted forward at 45 degrees, you end up looking forward. However, as the neck muscles tire from holding a 15 pound head this odd position, riders end up like you described. > could easily just be age… I'm pretty sure that's the case. :)
make3 4y ago
can't you just move your eyes
- mdp2021 4y ago
  To be fair to the poster, we have in general horizontally distributed eyes. Yes the display is squarish, so the focus uses similar distances, but maybe the game of peripheral vision gives the L↔R space some advantage. I would install extra eyes.
dominotw 4y ago
I think most of ppl have the opposite problem called "nerd neck" from looking down all the time while using phone, laptop ect. This could be a nice antidote to that :D .
- sangnoir 4y ago
  Never heard of nerd neck til now. Every single piece of ergonomic advice on using monitors that I have encountered has recommended that the top of your monitor be level with your eyes so you look down (slightly) rather than up.
  - wyclif 4y ago
    Yes, and it doesn't just affect your neck. Setting it up like that is also better for eye strain and fatigue, because if your monitor is too high and you're looking up (defined as your eyes angled above your horizon), tear production is inhibited and your eyes get tired a lot faster.
  - tatersolid 4y ago
    I just had a cervical fusion after 26 years in IT. Not a fun time. I really suggest you do not look downward at your screens. My surgeon used the term “computer neck” so it must be a common thing.

My cervical vertebrae are cowering in fear. I'd rather twist left to right and put the burden on muscles, than over-articulate my neck.

by sbf501 4y ago

My cervical vertebrae are cowering in fear. I'd rather twist left to right and put the burden on muscles, than over-articulate my neck.

arghwhat 4y ago

You cervical vertebrae are likely covering in fear due to significant underutilization.

sbf501 4y ago
I give lots of head. I should be OK. Happy now, doctor?

iblaine 4y ago

In my experience, 27" monitors on top of each other will hurt your neck and/or eyes, and side by side is more comfortable.

Auracle 4y ago
I have the exact opposite experience. I run a 34” ultra wide on top of a 27” 16x9 monitor. The top one is angled down just a bit and there bottom one is angled up a bit. I just need to move by eyes to see them well. With side by side monitors I’m either straining my eyes or moving my neck.

willio58 4y ago

I’ve been using a vertical monitor recently and I have to say I haven’t noticed any pain. I don’t tend to look up and down with my head, I simply move my eyes up and down

Schiendelman 4y ago
Oh you won’t notice the pain. You’ll notice in 20 years.
- bartvk 4y ago
  Can you expand on this ominous prediction? What are your experiences?
  - sbf501 4y ago
    I used to be able to ride a bicycle for hours on end in my 20's and 30's. Now I can't look up when bent over in that position, I need a rise in the handlebars to get me almost vertical. I didn't hurt myself. I didn't get in an accident. It is just a fundamentally unnatural position and the discs just started to deteriorate from years of holding that position. My bikes were sized and fit properly, and I was doing everything right and everything felt OK for literally decades until one day it wasn't OK.
    - arghwhat 4y ago
      Intense bike positions require you to statically position the neck at almost 90 degrees to look forward, and keeping the neck maxed out like that is probably not great in the long run. The articulation to look up/down is maybe +/- 15 degrees, and being dynamic it should be a positive movement that strengthens your neck. That you have reduced neck flexibility decades later could easily just be age…
      - sbf501 4y ago
        > Intense bike positions require you to statically position the neck at almost 90 degrees to look forward Cyclists learn that the proper position is to hold the head at roughly the same angle of the spine and to peer upwards at an angle. So you are basically looking UP, but since the top 2/3rds of the spine is tilted forward at 45 degrees, you end up looking forward. However, as the neck muscles tire from holding a 15 pound head this odd position, riders end up like you described. > could easily just be age… I'm pretty sure that's the case. :)

make3 4y ago

can't you just move your eyes

mdp2021 4y ago
To be fair to the poster, we have in general horizontally distributed eyes. Yes the display is squarish, so the focus uses similar distances, but maybe the game of peripheral vision gives the L↔R space some advantage. I would install extra eyes.

dominotw 4y ago

I think most of ppl have the opposite problem called "nerd neck" from looking down all the time while using phone, laptop ect. This could be a nice antidote to that :D .

sangnoir 4y ago
Never heard of nerd neck til now. Every single piece of ergonomic advice on using monitors that I have encountered has recommended that the top of your monitor be level with your eyes so you look down (slightly) rather than up.
- wyclif 4y ago
  Yes, and it doesn't just affect your neck. Setting it up like that is also better for eye strain and fatigue, because if your monitor is too high and you're looking up (defined as your eyes angled above your horizon), tear production is inhibited and your eyes get tired a lot faster.
- tatersolid 4y ago
  I just had a cervical fusion after 26 years in IT. Not a fun time. I really suggest you do not look downward at your screens. My surgeon used the term “computer neck” so it must be a common thing.