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I suspect that's counting both the intercity trains and the regional trains. If so, the Northeast Corridor in New Jersey and southern Connecticut will be hittin

I suspect that's counting both the intercity trains and the regional trains. If so, the Northeast Corridor in New Jersey and southern Connecticut will be hitting roughly those numbers already--NJT and Metro North add a lot of traffic to the NEC.

martinald 4y ago
No it's not. This is purely new high speed intercity services. If you include the WCML out of Euston ("legacy line" - can still do 125mph/200kmh - which will have increased regional services as space is freed up by moving the intercity ones to HS2), then you can at least double that number. Probably triple given it is a 4 track railway.
dmd 4y ago
Oh for some reason I interpreted this as that many trains departing to the same place. Like as if there were a train from New York to Boston every few minutes.
- Symbiote 4y ago
  I already posted this, but I'll repeat it [1]. These are all intercity trains to cities north of London. There will be 6 trains per hour to Birmingham (120 miles from London), three of which continue beyond Birmingham. An additional 11 trains don't stop at Birmingham, but cities beyond it. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Speed_2#Proposed_service_pattern https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Speed_2#Proposed_service_... and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Speed_2#/media/File:HS2_vector_map.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Speed_2#/media/File:HS2_v...
  - IIAOPSW 4y ago
    The thing that you're counting as "intercity" is roughly comparable to what is classified as regional service in the North East US. Destination | Operator | Distance from NYC Camden / Philly | NJT / Amtrak | 82 mi Montauk | LIRR / Amtrak | 110 mi New Haven | MNR / Amtrak | 67 mi Except for Montauk, these places are cities in their own right, but we don't really think of them as intercity trains because the primary reason someone would board is as a commuter not as a traveler.
    - Symbiote 4y ago
      An intercity train stops primarily at large towns and cities. Acela looks like the only frequent intercity train from NYC, though I may have missed one as there are several daily Amtrak trains. The planned schedule for the new line in England will have the shortest train make only these stops, 3 times per hour: London Euston 0 miles London Old Oak Common 5 miles Birmingham 125 miles after 52 minutes And a longer one (also 3 times per hour) will make only these stops: London Euston 0 miles London Old Oak Common 5 miles Birmingham 125 miles (1 of the 3 per hour) Manchester Airport 205 miles That is nothing like a regional/commuter train. The existing regional train to Birmingham stops at Watford, Milton Keynes, Wolverton, Rugby, Coventry, Canley, Tile Hill, Berkswell, Hampton-in-Arden and Birmingham — that is like the Philly/LIRR/MNR trains.

martinald 4y ago

No it's not. This is purely new high speed intercity services. If you include the WCML out of Euston ("legacy line" - can still do 125mph/200kmh - which will have increased regional services as space is freed up by moving the intercity ones to HS2), then you can at least double that number. Probably triple given it is a 4 track railway.

dmd 4y ago

Oh for some reason I interpreted this as that many trains departing to the same place. Like as if there were a train from New York to Boston every few minutes.

Symbiote 4y ago
I already posted this, but I'll repeat it [1]. These are all intercity trains to cities north of London. There will be 6 trains per hour to Birmingham (120 miles from London), three of which continue beyond Birmingham. An additional 11 trains don't stop at Birmingham, but cities beyond it. [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Speed_2#Proposed_service_pattern https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Speed_2#Proposed_service_... and https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Speed_2#/media/File:HS2_vector_map.jpg https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/High_Speed_2#/media/File:HS2_v...
- IIAOPSW 4y ago
  The thing that you're counting as "intercity" is roughly comparable to what is classified as regional service in the North East US. Destination | Operator | Distance from NYC Camden / Philly | NJT / Amtrak | 82 mi Montauk | LIRR / Amtrak | 110 mi New Haven | MNR / Amtrak | 67 mi Except for Montauk, these places are cities in their own right, but we don't really think of them as intercity trains because the primary reason someone would board is as a commuter not as a traveler.
  - Symbiote 4y ago
    An intercity train stops primarily at large towns and cities. Acela looks like the only frequent intercity train from NYC, though I may have missed one as there are several daily Amtrak trains. The planned schedule for the new line in England will have the shortest train make only these stops, 3 times per hour: London Euston 0 miles London Old Oak Common 5 miles Birmingham 125 miles after 52 minutes And a longer one (also 3 times per hour) will make only these stops: London Euston 0 miles London Old Oak Common 5 miles Birmingham 125 miles (1 of the 3 per hour) Manchester Airport 205 miles That is nothing like a regional/commuter train. The existing regional train to Birmingham stops at Watford, Milton Keynes, Wolverton, Rugby, Coventry, Canley, Tile Hill, Berkswell, Hampton-in-Arden and Birmingham — that is like the Philly/LIRR/MNR trains.