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Without wanting to sound stupid, when you talk about salaries do you always mention the amount before or after tax? Here in Europe it's almost always after tax.
by stef25 15y ago
Without wanting to sound stupid, when you talk about salaries do you always mention the amount before or after tax? Here in Europe it's almost always after tax.
- lunaru 15y agoIn the states all salary numbers are before tax unless stated otherwise.
- hunterp 15y agoYeah. Because we're the U.S, we believe the government would go bankrupt if taxes were calculated before hand in stores, in conversations. Also, tips for service like waiters....it would crash our economy if we included tips in the price of the meal to avoid awkward moments of young waiters staring at your wallet and making last minute-conversation that might even be dishonest. Oh yeah, and we have cocky 29 year old kids that post bullshit stories to HN (yes I'm 29, but the only way I believe you can make 250k is to go into a successful business for yourself).
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- asmosoinio 15y agoReally? In Finland we always discuss salaries as in before personal tax. This amount is a bit less than the company pays though, because they pay a part as social security compensations etc.
- iaskwhy 15y agoIn the UK, it has always been before tax with me. In Portugal, it depends: if you are on a contract then it's after tax, if you are not on a contract (think consultant) it's before tax. This happens because most people have no idea that the other side receives only the net wage and vice-versa.
- bobbydavid 15y agoIn the US some taxes are paid by the employee and some by the employer. The salary that's quoted is before employee taxes but after employer taxes.
- div 15y agoI'm from Belgium, and I've never heard people talk about their salary after tax. edit: to answer your question, the 250k is before tax.
- stef25 15y agoI'm Belgian too. So if your Brut salary is 3k and your Net 1.5K you say during discussions that you make 3K? Everyone I know does the opposite. EDIT: Actually I see what you mean. In the above scenario I would never tell a friend I make 3K but during salary discussions and in writing I guess you would quote the Brut.
- bosie 15y agoin austria it is always before. heck, i know a lot of people who don't even know how much they make after taxes
- iaskwhy 15y agoWhy does that happen? If you check your balance you can clearly see your net wage, right?
- artmageddon 15y agoIt can differ by principality / state. Personally, I live in New Jersey and work in New York City, so I have to pay income taxes to TWO states, whereas my best friend in Florida doesn't pay any income tax at all. It's subjective and skews numbers, also you can't negotiate after-tax pay with your employer.
- bosie 15y agoyes and no. Some just don't check their balance as they don't care about 100 or 150 euros a month. what makes it a bit more complicated too (not complete, i am sure there are other reasons as well): we get paid at least 14 times a year, where the non-monthly payouts have a completely different taxing. my father working for a bank gets paid 16 times a year plus a bonus once or twice a year. also, once you have paid a certain amount for your social security, you don't pay it at all anymore, skewing your net wage. it might be that the employer miscalculated your net wage and you might have to pay the IRS at the end of the year (or if you are lucky, you get money back)
- iaskwhy 15y agoI see, thanks, I wasn't thinking about all those complex cases. :)
- dkersten 15y agoIn Ireland, salary refers to before tax.
- plunchete 15y agoSpain and Luxembourg also before taxes
- krzyk 15y agoIn Poland it's always after tax. Moreover we almost never mention yearly pay, always a monthly one.