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Are you serious? Theorems are laws. It's like me doubting the Pythagorean theorem because I can't understand the proof. Local hidden variables can not explain
by ko27 4y ago
Are you serious? Theorems are laws. It's like me doubting the Pythagorean theorem because I can't understand the proof.
Local hidden variables can not explain experimental results of QM. That's a fact. Ask any QM Physicist and you'll get the same answer.
- ynniv 4y agoThat's the same argument every model has made for the history of science, but :shrug:. The value of a model is its predictive capability. Thinking any one to be absolute truth blinds us from progress.
- dandanua 4y agoIf we see that a model doesn't work - it becomes an absolute truth.
- ncmncm 4y agoNo. Local hidden variables can not explain experimental results of QM without implying something many people find distasteful. But no one has demonstrated any objective reason why that distaste has anything to do with the universe or its laws. So, another way to say it is local hidden variables do explain experimental results of QM if you are willing to accept the implications, none of which contradict observation.
- dandanua 4y agoSure, LHV can explain QM if we accept that scientists in different labs make correlated free choices, or some other nonsense. But why stick to LHV if you are willing to accept nonsense? There are infinitely many ways to accept nonsense without LHV!
- ncmncm 4y agoYou call an interpretation you don't like "nonsense". But calling a thing nonsense is not a way to refute it. Relativity was nonsense, once. Can you devise an experiment that may produce results inconsistent with the interpretation?
- roflyear 4y agoWhat are the implications and do those implications essentially redefine what a hidden variable is?
- ncmncm 4y agoSearch term: superdeterminism. There is this essentially religious notion of "free will" that physical theories have been obliged to preserve, for no objective reason. Hidden variables are inconsistent with experiment only if you demand "free will" be preserved.
- roflyear 4y agolol isn't that redefining hidden variables?
- lamontcg 4y ago> Local hidden variables can not explain experimental results of QM without implying something many people find distasteful. No. Local hidden variables can't explain QM without breaking math or conflicting with very well tested experiments. It isn't just "unfashionable". You're free to postulate non-local hidden variables, but you can't wave away the EPR results like they're just philosophy.
- ncmncm 4y agoThe EPR experiments are ground truth. How we interpret them is our responsibility. Always omitted from the list of interpretations are those abandoning will-o-th-wisp "free will". https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ytyjgIyegDI https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=ytyjgIyegDI