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Middle management is struggling to show their value or even find something to do. The head shed is needed, and the workers are needed. Throw in tram leads to

Middle management is struggling to show their value or even find something to do. The head shed is needed, and the workers are needed. Throw in tram leads to insulate the team from the bs and to keep them on the right path. And given that software development usually profits from peace and quiet, a bullpen or place where interruptions occur daily or worse is counterproductive. Let the marketeers or the like do their thing to the best of their ability, but please have them do it somewhere else. If you can’t asychronously tell whether a project you’re purportedly responsible for is advancing, why are you being paid?

RestlessMind 4y ago
> And given that software development usually profits from peace and quiet It seems you have never built any complex software which needed a lot of whiteboarding, intense design discussions with lots of nuances to hash out, lots of unanticipated tiny cases which were solved by a quick 2-min chat or other aspects which are far better addressed in person vs via Zoom.
- jleyank 4y ago
  I’ve spent decades building such things. But it’s not something that’s done much after things are threshed out and work assigned. Fine, gather the clans to start things up, divvy up work, and get out of their way and let them work. Better?
  - RestlessMind 4y ago
    > gather the clans to start things up, divvy up work, and get out of their way and let them work That sounds good. But my company has no budget to gather the clans. So what is the alternative?
    - jleyank 4y ago
      Embrace remote work and zoom away. I assume there was never or is no longer an office to collect in?
- bluefirebrand 4y ago
  > which are far better addressed in person vs via Zoom. Can you elaborate on why you think this? It doesn't seem very obvious to me that this is the case. I've worked remote on a ton of projects and never really struggled to hash out these nuances via email, text message, video call, whatever.

RestlessMind 4y ago

> And given that software development usually profits from peace and quiet It seems you have never built any complex software which needed a lot of whiteboarding, intense design discussions with lots of nuances to hash out, lots of unanticipated tiny cases which were solved by a quick 2-min chat or other aspects which are far better addressed in person vs via Zoom.

jleyank 4y ago
I’ve spent decades building such things. But it’s not something that’s done much after things are threshed out and work assigned. Fine, gather the clans to start things up, divvy up work, and get out of their way and let them work. Better?
- RestlessMind 4y ago
  > gather the clans to start things up, divvy up work, and get out of their way and let them work That sounds good. But my company has no budget to gather the clans. So what is the alternative?
  - jleyank 4y ago
    Embrace remote work and zoom away. I assume there was never or is no longer an office to collect in?
bluefirebrand 4y ago
> which are far better addressed in person vs via Zoom. Can you elaborate on why you think this? It doesn't seem very obvious to me that this is the case. I've worked remote on a ton of projects and never really struggled to hash out these nuances via email, text message, video call, whatever.