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Wrong. He had laid out where the money would come from in the deal, the bank loans have already been secured.

by colinmhayes 4y ago

imwillofficial 4y ago
- tptacek 4y ago
  I'm surprised you believe you've explained it. I think it's going to take you more than a sentence or two.
  - imwillofficial 4y ago
    - tptacek 4y ago
      As you can see elsewhere on the thread, my homework disagrees with yours, so you haven't persuaded.
      - imwillofficial 4y ago
        Then watch and see I guess
- edgyquant 4y ago
  You’re completely incorrect. Banks signed contracts agreeing to lend money, otherwise Musk wouldn’t have been able to make a serious, contractual, offer.
  - imwillofficial 4y ago
    - dang 4y ago
      Could you please stop posting unsubstantive and/or flamewar comments to HN? It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for. HN is for thoughtful, curious conversation. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful. Edit: it looks like we've had to warn you lots of times in the past. If you continue like this we're going to end up having to ban you, so please stop.
      - imwillofficial 4y ago
        An unpopular opinion coming from a place of experience is hardly “unsubstantive.” I have insight into this topic and I am completely correct. I have done nothing but lay out the reality of the situation, and did NOT engage in flame baiting. I think you are out of line on this one. However, I will refrain from commenting on this topic in such a manner.
        dang 4y ago
        This may be one of those cases where it's hard to perceive how your comment came across to other people because you're presupposing all the knowledge (and good intentions) that you had in your head when you wrote it. It's natural to presuppose all that—we all do this—and then to forget that literally none of that information is available to other people. You have to include it explicitly if you want either your knowledge or your intention to come across. In fact, the comment you posted contained very little actual information and a lot of swipiness. What was good: "These are tentative offers with multiple failure points with all sorts of conditions" is good, but not much, and it's not clear why/how that matters. If you had begun your comment with that sentence and then added more explanation, it would have been great. What was bad: - Leading with "Wrong" is a swipe and clearly against the site guidelines. - "You obviously don’t work in finance or you’d know better, despite your username." is another swipe, definitely flamebait, and also clearly against the site guidelines.

Wrong. He had laid out where the money would come from in the deal, the bank loans have already been secured.

imwillofficial 4y ago

tptacek 4y ago
I'm surprised you believe you've explained it. I think it's going to take you more than a sentence or two.
- imwillofficial 4y ago
  - tptacek 4y ago
    As you can see elsewhere on the thread, my homework disagrees with yours, so you haven't persuaded.
    - imwillofficial 4y ago
      Then watch and see I guess
edgyquant 4y ago
You’re completely incorrect. Banks signed contracts agreeing to lend money, otherwise Musk wouldn’t have been able to make a serious, contractual, offer.
- imwillofficial 4y ago
  - dang 4y ago
    Could you please stop posting unsubstantive and/or flamewar comments to HN? It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for. HN is for thoughtful, curious conversation. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit of the site more to heart, we'd be grateful. Edit: it looks like we've had to warn you lots of times in the past. If you continue like this we're going to end up having to ban you, so please stop.
    - imwillofficial 4y ago
      An unpopular opinion coming from a place of experience is hardly “unsubstantive.” I have insight into this topic and I am completely correct. I have done nothing but lay out the reality of the situation, and did NOT engage in flame baiting. I think you are out of line on this one. However, I will refrain from commenting on this topic in such a manner.
      - dang 4y ago
        This may be one of those cases where it's hard to perceive how your comment came across to other people because you're presupposing all the knowledge (and good intentions) that you had in your head when you wrote it. It's natural to presuppose all that—we all do this—and then to forget that literally none of that information is available to other people. You have to include it explicitly if you want either your knowledge or your intention to come across. In fact, the comment you posted contained very little actual information and a lot of swipiness. What was good: "These are tentative offers with multiple failure points with all sorts of conditions" is good, but not much, and it's not clear why/how that matters. If you had begun your comment with that sentence and then added more explanation, it would have been great. What was bad: - Leading with "Wrong" is a swipe and clearly against the site guidelines. - "You obviously don’t work in finance or you’d know better, despite your username." is another swipe, definitely flamebait, and also clearly against the site guidelines.