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> I have enormous respect for his engineering and business skills, he's accomplished some remarkable things. But he doesn't seem so great as a dealmaker. Perhap
by femiagbabiaka 4y ago
> I have enormous respect for his engineering and business skills, he's accomplished some remarkable things. But he doesn't seem so great as a dealmaker. Perhaps he's badly advised, but hey, he chose his advisors.
There’s no evidence that he’s a good engineer or a good businessman, save if committing fraud or stealing the accomplishments of others is in the list of things that qualifies one of either. It’s beyond time to start taking his actions present and historical seriously instead of feeding into his cult of ego.
- dang 4y agoWe detached this flamewar tangent from https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32028410 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32028410. Please see https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32039467 https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=32039467.
- gzer0 4y agohttps://www.britannica.com/biography/Elon-Musk https://www.britannica.com/biography/Elon-Musk
- femiagbabiaka 4y ago> save if committing fraud or stealing the accomplishments of others
- rocqua 4y agoSpaceX is actually doing great things. Tesla was very innovative 5 years ago. These two, especially spaceX, are quite impressive.
- femiagbabiaka 4y agoTesla is stolen and only saw success because of endless amount of government subsidies and a tremendous amount of fraud on Musk’s part and SpaceX was a shitshow until he went hands off.
- dang 4y agoComments like this break the site guidelines. If you wouldn't mind reviewing https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html and taking the intended spirit more to heart, we'd be grateful. We want thoughtful, curious conversation here, not flamebait, fulminating, or name-calling.
- meatsauce 4y ago
- dang 4y agoWe've banned this account for repeatedly breaking the site guidelines and ignoring our requests to stop. That's not cool. https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
- taberiand 4y agoThere's a reasonable argument that these great things are despite Musk, not due to him.
- edgyquant 4y agoThen please make it instead of hinting…
- meatsauce 4y ago[flagged]
- femiagbabiaka 4y agoWho was the original owner of the Tesla brand? Where did the idea for battery powered cars come from? How did Elon get listed as an owner of PayPal? How did the folks who worked at X.com feel about Elons leadership? What about after the PayPal acquisition? What was the primary method of profit generation for Tesla during the early days? How many years has FSD been floated for exactly? If asking these questions and judging based on the answers to them is irrational, I’m happily irrational.