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The law does not seem to stop an officer from walking close to someone to demand they stop filming. It seems that if you are filming "safely from a distance" t

The law does not seem to stop an officer from walking close to someone to demand they stop filming. It seems that if you are filming "safely from a distance" they just need to send one officer over to wherever you are and demand you stop filming.

deelowe 4y ago
This is exactly what will happen.
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benglish11 4y ago
Then you are no longer a bystander and may continue to film. The irony with this bill is that it would be illegal to closely film the police as a bystander, but if you are arrested/detained for doing so you may film the police detaining you.
- dylan604 4y ago
  Only if you stop and then re-start the video clip. Otherwise, it's the same clip that started while illegal rendering the entire clip illegal. Or some such lawyerly BS to get the cops to be the victim.
Thorrez 4y ago
It's not 8 feet from the nearest cop. It's 8 feet from where the arrest is happening. So unless both the arresting officer and the arrestee come toward you, you can stay where you are and film.
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- genocidicbunny 4y ago
  Which cops will absolutely be doing. After all, if the arrestee refuses, the cops can just beat them up a little more and claim they were also resisting arrest.
  - Thorrez 4y ago
    If the cop drags the arrestee toward you, you can walk backward keeping the 8 foot distance. If they keep following you around, this will make for a pretty interesting video that's almost certain to get some wide sharing if you post it online.
    - genocidicbunny 4y ago
      Oh my sweet summer child. That just gives them an even better excuse to detain you. Now you're acting suspiciously and running away from the police.
      - Thorrez 4y ago
        Either you're being detained, in which case the law says you're allowed to record your own detainment, or you're not being detained, in which case you're allowed to walk away. In no case does this law give the police an extra reason to detain you if you walk away while they walk toward you. If police are going to make up something bogus like arresting you because you're giving them space, they can do that regardless of this new law. This new law doesn't make it worse.
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mlyle 4y ago
"E. FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS SECTION, "LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITY" MEANS ANY OF THE FOLLOWING: 1. QUESTIONING A SUSPICIOUS PERSON. 2. CONDUCTING AN ARREST, ISSUING A SUMMONS OR ENFORCING THE LAW. 3. HANDLING AN EMOTIONALLY DISTURBED OR DISORDERLY PERSON WHO IS EXHIBITING ABNORMAL BEHAVIOR." And if they approach you to conduct "law enforcement activity" on you, you're effectively exempted and allowed to film. https://www.azleg.gov/legtext/55leg/2R/bills/HB2319S.pdf https://www.azleg.gov/legtext/55leg/2R/bills/HB2319S.pdf
- InCityDreams 4y ago
  Given worldwide 'shot by cop' statistics, i would put '..AN EMOTIONALLY DISTURBED OR DISORDERLY PERSON WHO IS EXHIBITING ABNORMAL BEHAVIOR." as a valid label for US cops.
Gordonjcp 4y ago
Telephoto lens and a cherry picker that goes up higher than eight feet.
- thfuran 4y ago
  Ah, yes. I never leave home without them.

deelowe 4y ago

This is exactly what will happen.

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benglish11 4y ago

Then you are no longer a bystander and may continue to film. The irony with this bill is that it would be illegal to closely film the police as a bystander, but if you are arrested/detained for doing so you may film the police detaining you.

dylan604 4y ago
Only if you stop and then re-start the video clip. Otherwise, it's the same clip that started while illegal rendering the entire clip illegal. Or some such lawyerly BS to get the cops to be the victim.

Thorrez 4y ago

It's not 8 feet from the nearest cop. It's 8 feet from where the arrest is happening. So unless both the arresting officer and the arrestee come toward you, you can stay where you are and film.

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genocidicbunny 4y ago
Which cops will absolutely be doing. After all, if the arrestee refuses, the cops can just beat them up a little more and claim they were also resisting arrest.
- Thorrez 4y ago
  If the cop drags the arrestee toward you, you can walk backward keeping the 8 foot distance. If they keep following you around, this will make for a pretty interesting video that's almost certain to get some wide sharing if you post it online.
  - genocidicbunny 4y ago
    Oh my sweet summer child. That just gives them an even better excuse to detain you. Now you're acting suspiciously and running away from the police.
    - Thorrez 4y ago
      Either you're being detained, in which case the law says you're allowed to record your own detainment, or you're not being detained, in which case you're allowed to walk away. In no case does this law give the police an extra reason to detain you if you walk away while they walk toward you. If police are going to make up something bogus like arresting you because you're giving them space, they can do that regardless of this new law. This new law doesn't make it worse.
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mlyle 4y ago

"E. FOR THE PURPOSES OF THIS SECTION, "LAW ENFORCEMENT ACTIVITY" MEANS ANY OF THE FOLLOWING: 1. QUESTIONING A SUSPICIOUS PERSON. 2. CONDUCTING AN ARREST, ISSUING A SUMMONS OR ENFORCING THE LAW. 3. HANDLING AN EMOTIONALLY DISTURBED OR DISORDERLY PERSON WHO IS EXHIBITING ABNORMAL BEHAVIOR." And if they approach you to conduct "law enforcement activity" on you, you're effectively exempted and allowed to film. https://www.azleg.gov/legtext/55leg/2R/bills/HB2319S.pdf https://www.azleg.gov/legtext/55leg/2R/bills/HB2319S.pdf

InCityDreams 4y ago
Given worldwide 'shot by cop' statistics, i would put '..AN EMOTIONALLY DISTURBED OR DISORDERLY PERSON WHO IS EXHIBITING ABNORMAL BEHAVIOR." as a valid label for US cops.

Gordonjcp 4y ago

Telephoto lens and a cherry picker that goes up higher than eight feet.

thfuran 4y ago
Ah, yes. I never leave home without them.